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Re: The 2016 October Horror Marathon

by J T Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:47 pm

My wife and I are two episodes into the Hotel season of American Horror Story. It is sooo gory and disturbing! And I don't mean that in a good way. I just find it more gross than entertaining.

This show makes me question the logic of censors too. They aren't allowed to say "fuck" because the show is aired on the FX channel, but they are allowed to show a still living man with his eyeballs scooped out, his tongue cut off, impaled to a bed stand so that he is frozen in a sexual position with a dead woman riding cowgirl style on top of him, who is also impaled into place in the bedstand, and stuck on his still erect penis because he was forced to take sexual stimulants to the point of priapism. But, yeah, don't say "fuck." That would be bad and might offend the viewership.

I mean, it's horror, so I expect violence, but they push the twisted angle hard on this show, but unlike other seasons of AmHS, the Hotel season just doesn't give you enough plot to care about anything. The worst part is that the scare-factor just isn't there, other than the scariness of the utter depravity of it all. The one thing I will say in its favor is that the costumes and makeup look great, and the art deco hotel is pretty cool looking. Overall though, the show is all shock value and style with no substance. I'd like to just stop watching now, but once my wife starts a TV series, she insists on finishing it, so I'll probably be dragged in for the rest of this bloody mess.
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Re: The 2016 October Horror Marathon

by Ack Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:12 pm

Right now the NSA is wondering why I just typed "American horror story hotel necrophilia" into Google.
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Re: The 2016 October Horror Marathon

by noiseredux Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:02 pm

Lost interest in that season fast.
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Re: The 2016 October Horror Marathon

by J T Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:37 pm

Ack wrote:Right now the NSA is wondering why I just typed "American horror story hotel necrophilia" into Google.


From what I know of you Ack, I would imagine that the NSA doesn't even consider "American horror story hotel necrophilia" to be one of your top 50 most questionable Google searches. :lol:
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Re: The 2016 October Horror Marathon

by Michi Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:03 pm

I know prfsnl_gmr was going to watch this this year, so I'll stick this behind a spoiler tag.


Evil Dead (2013)
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David and three friends head to his family’s cabin in the middle of the woods to help David’s junkie sister, Mia, detox from some un-named substance. When they get there, they realize that someone has broken in. Some time later they discover that whoever broke in has strung up dozens of dead cats in the cellar and left behind a plastic and barbed wire bound book.

David’s curious friend Eric unwisely takes and opens the tome and, despite clear attempts at concealment, utters four written words that unleash a horrible, damnable evil upon the small, well intentioned party. Further readings reveal that the evil being is called The Abomination and he only needs five souls to return to the land of the living. Let’s see, how many people are in the cabin? One, two, three, fou-....

Yep, they’re all screwed.

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You can’t feel bad for Eric, though. He was given every hint possible to bury the book or shut the hell up.

The first five minutes of the movie establish that this isn’t going to be anything at all like it’s predecessors. So if you’re coming into this reboot of Evil Dead thinking it’s going to be at all similar to the first three films just because it has Raimi and Campbell’s names attached to it then ABANDON HOPE ALL YE WHO ENTER HERE. This ain’t that kind of movie.

While the original movies were best described as horror comedies, this new version of Evil Dead seems to ask the question “what would the Evil Dead movie have been like if it had been a hell of a lot more serious?”

If you want comedy, you’re not going to find it here. This new Evil Dead is much more rooted in our mundane, serious real world....well, as real as demon summonings are anyway. Transformations into hell spawn are a bit more subtle and gradual than previous incarnations: first the eyes change color, the first act of violence is usually against themselves, once possessed no one develops super human speed and starts flying around the room cackling madly. It’s all a bit more based in reality, making all the body horror featured here all the more horrific.

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What’s worse is you knew she was going to do it, you just didn’t know it was going to be like that.

There are a couple of instances reminiscent of the over-the-top-ness of its predecessors, including instances were the level of the loss of blood probably should have killed a couple people...

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...but if you’re hoping they have some sort of humorous angle, than you will be disappointed. There is nothing even remotely funny going on in this movie. At all.

Also, if you’re hoping for a complete story rehash of the first film you’re not going to find that either. This new reboot may follow the same basic outline of ‘kids in cabin release evil demon and die’, but it is it’s own distinctive tale. There is no character named Ash(ley) here for you to root for. These are all completely new kids and, unlike the first film, they come complete with their own backstories. They may not be very deep backstories, sure, but at least they have them, which is more than can be said for the original.

Not that the reboot lacks any similarities to the original. There’s still an unseen evil lurking in the woods waiting to be unleashed. The possessed are still murderous and twitchy as hell. The woods are still rape-y. Limbs are still lost. Demons still get locked in cellars. And the gore, my goodness, the gore. Once that blood starts flowing it practically doesn’t stop until it just feels like it’s raining blood.

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Well, actually at one point it does rain blood. Also, CHAINSAW! YAY!

And that doesn’t even address all the familiar sights around the cabin. The tone of the movie may be different from what came before, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t throw several nods their way. There’s a lot of very familiar imagry in this reboot. Everything from the design of the cabin, to the car, to a reference to Linda’s necklace is included.

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Hell, they even included a reference to Ash’s pissed off severed hand.

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Hand seen here, still looking pissed off.

And there’s a dozen or so other props and callbacks that reference the earlier movies, including the clock on the wall, portions of dialogue and several instances in the script (like when David tries to get Mia the hell outta Dodge only to realize the bridge is out.) There’s a lot of nods going on here, I just couldn’t find any decent pictures of some of them (finding a shot of the hand was hellish enough.)

I may have given the impression so far that I didn’t really care for the movie, but that couldn’t be further from the truth. I really quite enjoy the reboot of Evil Dead. Despite its many differences, it gets a lot of things right. For instance, I like that it went out and did it’s own thing. I’m a firm believer that if you’re going to reboot something, than you need to make enough changes to make it worth the effort. It’s not fun watching a new movie with a fresh coat of paint and already know what’s going to happen. So props to them for that.

Also, the lighting and special effects seen here are pretty spectacular. There’s very little CGI at work here, most everything is makeup and practical effects. The cinematography is also pretty damn good. It may be quite different from Raimi, but if you can’t tell by some of those screenshots, it’s still very impressive.

And let’s not leave out the acting. While the first film had that B-movie charm going for it, the reboot actually had a sizable budget to work with and it shows in the performance of its actors. Jane Levy is great as Mia. She does psycho, junkie and terrified equally well and it was entertaining watching her possessed ass. The rest of the cast is also excellent. Their characters may not have been blissfully capable, but their acting sure was.

Where the movie sort of goes a bit off-kilter is parts of the plot and dialogue. For instance, why does the nurse friend Olivia insist on detoxing Mia out in the middle of nowhere after the slew of hanging dead cats were found? And she keeps insisting about it after Mia wrecks her car. What’s her last name? Ratched? And how the hell is Eric able to decipher the ancient gibberish in the new book of the dead?

As for the dialogue, some of it comes off as a bit, well, off. I don’t want to say cartoonish, but sometimes the words being spoken didn’t feel like they fit right. I know they were going for ‘evil demon dialogue,’ but some of what was being said didn’t feel like something an a murderous, ancient demon would say. But maybe that’s just me.

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Then again, it’s a demon. They’re known for saying a lot of crazy shit, especially if they think it helps
them get out of the basement.


I found this reboot of Evil Dead to be quite entertaining. In my eyes, it gets a lot more right than it does wrong. It’s a much darker take on the original trilogy that spawned it, but it’s still an enjoyable ride. The art direction is well done and the effects are impressive. It’s clever at some points, creepy at times and overwhelmingly bloody at others. I definitely has its flaws for sure. (The characters are given some depth, but it doesn’t follow through with them. Some intriguing ideas are brought up at the beginning, but aren’t fully explored. The possessed could have shambled just a little bit faster....) But overall I don’t feel it’s a bad addition to the series. If they made another one, I wouldn’t hesitate to go see it.

If you like your demon possessions with a little less comedy, feel free to give this one a try. There are worse ways to spend 91 minutes. Just look at some of the things Ack watched.


I feel like I need to add more thoughts, but the write-up is already 3 1/2 pages and I can't think of anything else to add at the moment.

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Re: The 2016 October Horror Marathon

by noiseredux Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:09 pm

Fantastic movie. Takes the horror element of the first and runs with it. And some scenes still make me cringe.
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Re: The 2016 October Horror Marathon

by Michi Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:17 pm

A lot of things about that movie still make me cringe.

But blissfully it all has to do with things that are supposed to make me cringe and not something technical, so yay-rah for that.
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Re: The 2016 October Horror Marathon

by Jagosaurus Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:29 pm

Ack wrote:That is really a shame about Mama. I remember seeing the trailers for it and being interested. Oh well, I had hopes.

Speaking of which, anyone heard of this movie?

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I saw a trailer for it a couple of weeks back when I saw The Magnificent Seven remake. Oh man, it looks good.


Hm, looks interesting. Video has 1K dislikes & I can see why. Looks intense.
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Re: The 2016 October Horror Marathon

by Nemoide Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:39 pm

I've got to get back on the Evil Dead wagon. I was obsessed with the first two movies in high school (I was always ambivalent about Army of Darkness) but I haven't yet seen the remake or the TV series.

My horror comic of the night is Wendy the Good Little Witch #26. Saying this is a horror comic is a pretty broad interpretation of the genre, but it has witches and ghosts and monsters and I like it, so I SAY IT COUNTS.
The comic opens with a one-page filler comic about Wendy fighting a dream-monster. It's light but dream-monsters are something I'm automatically a fan of so this issue's off to a good start!
The first real story is typical Wendy: bad witches are angry at Wendy for being good and decide to teach her how to be mean. The lessons in evil all backfire and help friendly animals avoid falling trees/monsters/avalanches.
This is almost certainly over-analyzing the character, but I really like how Wendy represents breaking with traditions and social norms to be the person you want to be. She might be a witch, but she wants to be friendly! Right on!

We get another one-page comic with the Ghostly Trio and then jump on in to another Wendy story! This one has Wendy helping an old (formally big bad) wolf. The wolf's being chased by the 3 little pigs who have grown up into "3 BIG little pigs" and want to beat up the wolf. Hijinx ensue.
Then there's a Casper story where Casper tricks the Ghostly Trio into doing good deeds while wearing a jack-o-lantern mask. Totally Halloweeny!
Finally there's a Spooky the Tuff Little Ghost story in which Spooky tries to get all romantic-like with Poil's cousin Sally.

It might be silly, but I really like these old Harvey Comics horror-comedy characters. I think Wendy especially has a really appealing visual design but even Casper can be great at showing how characters can be drawn expressively and appealingly with even the most simple/minimalistic design possible.
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Re: The 2016 October Horror Marathon

by noiseredux Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:41 pm

Michi wrote:A lot of things about that movie still make me cringe.

But blissfully it all has to do with things that are supposed to make me cringe and not something technical, so yay-rah for that.


Bathroom scene and Mia's hand for me. Nuff said.
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