The problem with "art"

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Czernobog wrote:I swear though, over half the people I've met who consider themselves artists have no idea what humility is, which can get tiresome.

Unfortunatedly this. :(
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My Art History professor in college said this: Art is stuff people make. Great art is art that has value.

And of course by "value" he isn't talking about the price tag, but about cultural worth. What he means is that everything made by humans qualifies as art, so why should we care that something is art if it doesn't mean something significant or have an impact on society? If it doesn't do those things, then there's no reason to point out that it's art.
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Art is art. I don't understand the need to debate about semantics. If somebody works hard and pours their soul into something, and then you look at it and it makes you feel anything at all, it's art. it can't really be defined and it doesn't really need to be. You just know. You look at something really awesome that blows you away on some level and you go "well shit, that's art."
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drowning_in_footwear wrote: it can't really be defined and it doesn't really need to be. You just know.


So art is like pornography?
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Forgive me for stretching out the page, but all this noise about art needs to be tempered.
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Hatta wrote:
drowning_in_footwear wrote: it can't really be defined and it doesn't really need to be. You just know.


So art is like pornography?


exactly!
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drowning_in_footwear wrote:
Hatta wrote:
drowning_in_footwear wrote: it can't really be defined and it doesn't really need to be. You just know.


So art is like pornography?


exactly!


Agreed. You may not be able to define it, but you'll knows it when you sees it. And only the truly pretentious SOB's will try to call you on your opinion. Most of the so called "professional" art critics don't even know what they're looking at anyway:

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Michi wrote:Agreed. You may not be able to define it, but you'll knows it when you sees it. And only the truly pretentious SOB's will try to call you on your opinion. [...]

Most of the so called "professional" art critics don't even know what they're looking at anyway

Wouldn't that make yourself a truly pretentious son of a bitch?
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General_Norris wrote:I can't help but think that using the term "art" and trying to show that something is and isn't "art" has become the goal, like when people try to label something as "sexist" or "racist" instead of explaining why it's bad. The term is the easy way out.

Yes indeedy. I hate how the average person these days has no idea what they are saying. They just throw out ready-made phrases that have no meaning whatsoever.

I remember once my brother told me how he was speaking to a snobby friend of his who sent him a picture of different coloured paint splashed together, telling him how 'deep' and 'powerful' it was. My brother said it was just some paint splashed together, and he got angry and said 'You just don't get it, Jake!' He used his name, really highlights the seriousness of the situation. It represents... deepness... in society... or sumin.

I hate that word. I've said many times "if it's 'deep', it doesn't make sense."
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