Update! EMIO Factory Shipped Packages come with NES Classic AdapterSee the very bottom of this post for a picture of The Edge Joystick I received with the mystery NES Classic Adapter. I confirmed the add on NES Classic Adapter does indeed change the Dpad function in a very unique way, see the Rayman Origins review below.
CRTGAMER wrote:Japan gets all the good stuff. I am very tempted to buy a Japanese Wii and register my US games to Japan Club Nintendo if it were possible. Come on Nintendo, release that SNES Classic Controller to all regions!
Though I still would like to get a dedicated SNES Classic Controller, the Emio "Advantage" Edge Joystick a nice option.
http://www.8-bitcentral.com/blog/2016Archive.htmlNintendo released the original NES Advantage in 1987 and it gave gamers a distinct "arcade" experience complete with an actual joystick and features like Turbo. Conceptually, bringing back the NES Advantage is a terrific idea, but this time EMiO recreated it for the NES Classic Edition. Being a third party developer, they may not have been privy to the systems exact specs prior to delivering their joystick.
Emio RECALL - The Edge Gamepad / The Edge JoystickOh crap, the repackaged Emio Wii Classic Controllers to NES Classic are on OFFICIAL RECALL! Emio may or may not release this getting to be rare and costly controller again. Best Buy lists it as "Out Of Stock - This Item No Longer Available" and immediately processes any returns as Recall. Gamestop as well lists it as "Not Available". A shame, the remake NES Advantage very solid with switches inside for Wii and WiiU 2D games.
Best Buy - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/emio-the-ed ... Id=5655564
Gamestop - http://www.gamestop.com/accessories/edg ... ion/138443 Due to precaution as Toy Safety Recall, a difficult returns repurchase!I really want one and Ebay prices are crazy either due to the NES Classic hype or the Factory Recall itself. Took the plunge when I saw one listed at of all places Amazon at five bucks over the older MSRP and (currently at the newer MSRP of $29.99) putting it at $33.98 shipped.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MTRYSSKA surprise to find the NES Classic Adapter in the box! The stick works beautiful and has a choice of "Robotron" round knob or "Streetfighter" bat handle Arcade Stick toppers. My preliminary check of the controls confirms a very solid hit of the joystick limit switches giving great tactical click feedback. Controller includes Start "+" and Select "-" buttons of the Wiimote. There is a Slow Button which simulates continue tapping of the start button slowing down a game. The two fire buttons feel solid with a clean press. The base is stable and does not have to be held when moving the stick around. Separate turbo fire engage buttons, rapid fire adjust knobs with LED flash indicators. An alternate "Arcade" stick in addition to my Tatsunko or PSX Blaze sticks.
Emio The Edge Button Layout
Classic Controller "-" = Emio Select
Classic Controller "+" = Emio Start
Classic Controller "A" = Emio "A"
Classic Controller "B" = Emio "B"
Classic Controller Dpad = Emio JoystickReviewed below are some games I have tested. There are other hidden "NES Advantage" game possibilities. I'll update this post as I try out more various games, get the stick while you can!
Game Test PERFECT - Rayman Origins
http://www.racketboy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30455&p=567763#p567763I bought The Edge Joystick specifically to try on this game which supports a Classic Controller with DPad and needs just the two button capability; matching the NES Advantage. With just the Wiimote, the game defaults to sideways control with Rayman walking. Plugging in the Edge switches the game to Classic Control mode. Interesting that Rayman starts running in place as if the Nunchuck (not plugged in) sprint run mode button is pressed!
CRTGAMER wrote: Discovered the
Emio NES Classic Adapter does in fact change the sensitivity of the Dpad function of the stick. Without the adapter, Rayman sprint runs and with the adapter Rayman walks! Sideways Wiimote sets only to walk mode. The Nunchuck mode includes a fire button sprint running mode.
Unique Auto Run Auto Walk Control Capability - Only on The Edge Joystick I prefer playing Rayman in the automatic sprint run mode with the Advantage Arcade style stick. However, there are levels that require careful timed jumps at tricky platforms. For those levels, I simply plug in the NES Classic Adapter to enable the walk mode of Rayman. The buttons work great, one for jump and one for attack. The Edge also has a combo A B button for quick jump attacks. Enabling the turbo fire buttons with variable range knobs confirmed to work; Rayman will continually jump or attack just by holding the button down. This will come in handy on the later Raman SHMUP levels!
Game Test PERFECT - Blast Works
http://www.racketboy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30455&p=542817#p542817A nice customization SHMUP that utilizes the Wii Classic Controller Dpad and two buttons for shooting and shrink items captured. Joystick works perfect as the Dpad. Rapid fire already built in the game so the turbo fire mode is not needed. In playing the game, sometimes tricky switching between shooting and shrinking captured objects. Not a problem, just hold the A B Button to keep items shrunk and fire engaged.
Game Test PERFECT - Data East Arcade ClassicsAs confirmed, any emulated game that has the Wii Classic Controller Dpad option is compatible with The Edge Joystick. Due to only two buttons, an issue of a Coin and Start buttons for emulated arcade games. Fortunately the Start Button is already set to the Emio Start (Wiimote
+) and the coin button can temporarily be set thru each in game pop up menu. I set the fire button to coins, load up the quarters, and pop up the menu to switch the button back to fire.
Data East
Magical Drop III and
Burgertime both work perfect, the Emio Edge Joystick duplicating the Stick of the original Arcade Cabinets. Another game
Heavy Barrel as in the Arcade Cab normally does not have rapid fire for the machine gun. Here is where the turbo fire dial control works perfect in dialing in the quickest auto fire. Instead of continually having to mash the fire button, now can just be held down for a much better game play.
Game Test PARTIAL - SNK Arcade ClassicsThe Neo Geo games work very well though there are only two buttons on the "NES Advantage".
Metal Slug plays great, but a sacrifice of adjusting the two buttons thru the game menu for jump and fire and losing out on the grenades. Game quite playable since Grenades are a limited supply. The
Heavy Metal SHMUP game the real surprise, fire can be set to not just auto, but AUTOMATIC fire in the game menu and with the turbo button engaged, nice! No need to hold the fire button in a SHMUP that needs to continuous fire. A mix of games with most that can be made playable; fortunately the buttons can be reconfigured on the fly.
Game Test PARTIAL - Shiren The WandererFor a Wii RPG game, a real surprise on the simplified controls! Then again the game is a Dungeon Crawler making it ideal for Dpad control and no camera control required. The Edge Joystick works perfect for the movement. The two buttons of The Edge are great as the primary buttons of action/attack and dash. However, a third button is needed to bring up the in game menu to utilize various items. A temporary swap in of the Nunchuck when one wants to bring up the RPG Menu to change weapons or take a healing potion. A compromise since most of the time will be spent exploring and attacking. I do wish the RPG Menu was assigned as one of the primary buttons since dash is not a high priority.
Game Test OK - Kirby Dream CollectionThis collection of retro Nintendo games has interesting results. SNES games had the primary button of jump, but the inhale with shoot does not work with just the two buttons of The Edge; it needs the standard four button support of the original SNES games. However, two button Gameboy and NES as expected work just fine. The real surprise is
N64 Kirby Crystal Shards on the Wii disc full compatible due to reversion back to the two button support.
Even better, the new
Return To Dream Land Challenge Stages also are two button support, perfect with The Edge Joystick. This is noteworthy since the Return Dreamland separate Wii game does NOT support the Classic Controller!
Game Test OK - Namco Museum MegamixThe Arcade Cabinet games are perfect since they only require one or two buttons and correctly matched. Unlike the SNK disc there is no reconfiguration of buttons allowed, works out since not needed. Each button is divided correctly so the two button games on The Edge Joystick works and for single button games such as Galaxian both buttons shoot! The remix 3d games require the analog stick; the Edge Joystick movement does not work either with or without the NES Classic Adapter. Plugging in just the adapter alone brings up "Wii Classic Controller detected" in the game. Moving Pacman to each Arcade Cabinet also requires an Analog stick or temporary Nunchuck swapped in, this confirms the Edge Joystick is strictly Dpad control.
Game Test PARTIAL - Super Mario All-Stars 25th Anniversary
http://www.racketboy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1032924#p1032924Though the emulated NES games use two buttons of the original NES gamepad, the Emio buttons both only duplicate the jump mode of Mario. The spit the fireballs do not work and the game has no button configuration option. This brings up the point for any Dpad Classic Control or Virtual Console games, there should be a button config option to guarantee full compatibility with The Edge Joystick.
Fortunately there is the NES Gamepad Mod option to maintain 100% compatibility for all sideways Wimote games.
http://www.racketboy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30455&p=605853#p605853Game Test FAIL - The Munchables
http://www.racketboy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=635733#p635733The rapid fire is needed for the Pacman munch mode. This makes the game so much better to play vs the default of continually mashing the fire button. The Edge supports the munch with rapid fire function. Unfortunately the Classic Controller analog stick is needed for direction movement which kills using The Edge Joystick.
CRTGAMER wrote:For the Munchables game, I can use the Tatsunko Arcade Stick since it has an Analog Stick mode. My PSX Blaze Arcade Stick as well supports the Analog stick with a Mayflash Adapter. Due to Analog only movement control, this confirms
The Edge Joystick is definitely only Dpad control support either with or without the NES Classic Adapter plugged in.
Emio Website Product Details - http://www.poweredbyemio.com/home/product/details/EMI022.html
The Edge Joystick - $29.99 MSRPTurbo functions allow repeated button presses by holding the “Turbo” button. The Turbo knobs control the speed of the buttons, and the ON/OFF buttons activate the turbo function on A and/or B buttons. Joystick is a digital 8-way input with circular gate. Switch between the ball top and bat top joysticks (included). Brings the arcade feel home, and works specially well with games that use 8 directions. A and B are micro switches with higher end and long-lasting material. These buttons are the best choice for any fighting game enthusiast! The Edge Joystick includes “Slow” & “B+A” buttons. “Slow” button gives an edge over a normal controller by making the game go in slow motion. Easily and accurately execute “B+A” moves. Edge Joystick comes with a 9' cable, so you can play your favorite games from almost any spot in your room! You don't have to worry about pulling the cable and disconnecting in the middle of a game.
Emio The Edge Review - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNPoyd-6z_Mhttps://mynintendonews.com/2016/11/16/the-emio-nes-mini-controller-has-been-recalled-for-not-working-with-nes-mini-games/It has been a rocky launch for the NES Mini, and it seems that trend is continuing with new developments. Lots of Reddit users are having a crisis over the EMiO NES Mini controller. Apparently, the product isn’t working with all NES Mini games. In fact, there’s uncertainty on whether it works for only a few games or works for none of them at all. Wii and Wii U games work fine, but the problem lies with the NES Mini games. Best Buy and Amazon have now removed the controller from their sites, so this isn’t confined to just Reddit. The controller has basically been recalled. Nintendo has not commented on the matter, but if they do, we’ll let you know.
Update: One of the readers contacted the manufacturers and received this email:
“Dear Customers who bought
The Edge Joystick (batch #:110116WSJ) and
The Edge Gamepad (batch:110116WSP).
Emio wrote:Thank you for contacting us, we know your time is valuable, and we wanted to give you a quick solution for connecting your controller with the NES Classic Console.
The Edge Joystick and The Edge Gamepad are compatible with Wii U and NES Classic Edition game consoles. It was brought to our attention that a few batches shipped, failed to include the NES Classic Console adapter in the box. To make it right with you, we are offering a FREE NES Classic Edition Adapter + a FREE NES Classic Edition Extension Cable + a FREE SURPRISE BONUS GIFT (a $30 Value). This offer only applies to qualifying customers.
To receive your FREE NES Gift Pack:
1. Do not return item to the store.
2. Instead Send an email to
Support@PoweredByEmio.comInclude title: “FREE NES GIFT PACK”, Name, address, and send proof of purchase receipt.
3. Wait to receive your product in the mail.
4. If you wish and are satisfied with our service. Please provide 5 Star rating or edit a negative listing with your updated experience. 5 Star ratings mean a lot to us.
5. Thank you!”
The literature in the packaging never mentioned anything about an adapter. So I doubt that some of the units just "shipped without the adapter." It is my opinion that they just shipped the controllers assuming they would work with the NES, but now that they don't they are providing this service. Should be interesting to see how this unfolds.
If you have purchased this, DO NOT SEND THE CONTROLLER BACK! Go ahead and send that Email. Based on a member at Atari Age, the Edge Joystick actually looks decent inside! Appears to have solid click switches for the stick; there is a choice of Ball or Bat Handle to thread on. Looking forward to my early Christmas present!
http://atariage.com/forums/topic/258901-nes-classic-edition-is-here/#entry3629155I also got an Edge joystick (for myself) and the first thing I did after I unboxed it was open it up and take a peek under the hood:
Tickle me impressed. Build quality is vastly superior to the NES Advantage, which was naught more than a giant Dpad with a stick on top and oversized mushy buttons with silicone membranes underneath. Inside the Edge contains real snap in 30mm buttons and what appears on first glance to be a Sanwa JLF joystick. I suspect it is a clone joystick because I attempted to lift off the restrictor plate and found it nearly impossible to remove. This is fairly easy to do on a stock JLF. Oh well looks like no circle/octo gate for me then! Regardless, the Edge stick is fully moddable and customizable as the buttons and joystick are literally drop in replacements...
Grab the controller while you can for use on the Wii. This is difficult to find due to the Recall, stores mandated due to connotations as a "Safety" recall and not just the repackage error. After my Amazon Order went thru, I had also emailed Emio for the free gift which includes the adapter fix for the NES Classic. Turned out I did not need to, my The Edge Joystick came with the NES Classic Adapter! The indication is the newer packages (note difference at the very top) now have a shout box "For NES Classic Edition and
WiiU".
CRTGAMER wrote:Will the Emio Edge Joystick and Gamepad return to retail shelves?When The Edge Joystick appeared, it was seen only at Best Buy stores in very limited quantities. The Edge Gamepad was only available at Walmart, also in limited quantities. Gamestop has the Edge Joystick as "Not Available" on their website, questionable if any stores ever received any during the initial run. Both Emio controllers were put on store shelves the same day as the launch of NES Classic consoles. A line of people at every location with tickets handed out; everything sold out upon store opening!
Even with the NES Classic Adapter discovered in my recent shipment, questionable if The Edge Joystick will make it back to retail stores due to the Recall Lockout. This is a repeat history of sorts of the NES console trying to break into the store shelves after the game console crash decades ago. The building of the stores trust to carry the recalled product again. Right now stores that list both the Edge Joystick and Edge Gamepad are still locked "Not Available Recall"; maybe due to some might get returned after Christmas?
Time will tell if Emio can get these back in the store shelves, for now get it while you can just in caseI bought my Edge Joystick from a 3rd party seller at Amazon; interesting the package was inside a perfect sized shipping box. Also in the shipping box was a Emio certificate for 10% off the next order, evidence this was bought directly from the Emio store website. Almost if that 3rd party seller has an inside connection for the fixed package? If I ever do get an NES Classic, I'll give that adapter a test. With the issues of some Dpad controlled games on the Wii, maybe still might have problems on the NES Classic?
arcadifvid wrote:i want to know whats in the cheat codes magazine! .... scans pls?
The 64 page booklet inside has all glossy pages, sorry, I won't scan them. It has game play tips, shortcuts and cheat codes for various NES games. Buy the controller with book to keep this product active. The Edge Joystick is really worth getting with the bonus booklet and NES Classic Adapter included. The NES Classic Adapter (arrow) along with choice of threaded controller knobs right in the box!