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Wii Gamecube Guide - Emio The Edge as Wii Arcade Stick

by CRTGAMER Sun May 15, 2011 1:30 pm

Wii and Gamecube Guide - Reviews and Mods

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Articles are indexed in the Quote below :wink:

Stay Vertical - Do not buy a Horizontal Wii (See why further down)

A Thread focused on the Wii and Gamecube. There are Mods, Repairs and reviews of various games both the common and obscure. My main interest is finding games and hardware that are obscure as well as modding to play a game in a new way. Articles include using a Laser Assembly Replacement, PS2 Arcade Stick on the Wii, finding uncommon games including Imports and modding a Wiimote for a direct hookup of a NES Gamepad.

CRTGAMER wrote:Wii - Gamecube - DS Post Index

Resetting Wii Forgotten Password - viewtopic.php?f=52&t=30455&p=1038101#p1038101

WiiU and Wii Selects vs Original - viewtopic.php?p=1032924#p1032924

Wii Channel Status List - viewtopic.php?f=52&p=771199#p771199

Emio The Edge Joystick NES Classic Adapter Update - viewtopic.php?p=1072519#p1072519

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Club Nintendo: viewtopic.php?f=52&p=630701#p630701

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Animal Crossing NES Games: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30455&p=553670#p553670

Boom Blox: viewtopic.php?f=2&p=521460#p521460

Conduit Special Edition: viewtopic.php?f=2&p=482894#p482894

Cubivore Game - A Very Rare Find: viewtopic.php?f=2&p=529160#p529160

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Dead Space Extraction: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30455&p=440800#p440800

Doshin The Giant PAL: viewtopic.php?f=2&p=537000#p537000

Dragons Lair 3D and Trilogy: viewtopic.php?f=2&p=488284#p488284

Elebits: viewtopic.php?f=2&p=426524#p426524

Fling Smash Remote Plus Bundle: viewtopic.php?f=2&p=531393#p531393

Geometry Wars Galaxies: viewtopic.php?f=2&p=420845#p420845

:idea: Play the game above with an Arcade style Blaze Twinstick.

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Golden Eye 007: viewtopic.php?f=2&p=457841#p457841

House of the Dead 2 & 3: viewtopic.php?f=2&p=424462#p424462

Impossible Mission: viewtopic.php?f=2&p=581880#p581880

Kirby's Epic Yarn: viewtopic.php?p=634503#p634503

Marble Saga Kororinpa: viewtopic.php?f=52&p=637347#p637347

Mercury Meltdown Revolution: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30455&p=567186#p567186

Metal Slug Anthology: viewtopic.php?f=52&p=764055#p764055

Metroid Prime 3 Corruption: viewtopic.php?f=2&p=471069#p471069

Metroid Other M: viewtopic.php?f=2&p=534734#p534734

Metroid Prime Trilogy: viewtopic.php?f=2&p=513209#p513209

Nights Journey Of Dreams: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30455&p=570694#p570694

Pikmin: viewtopic.php?f=2&p=517174#p517174

Rayman Origins viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30455&p=567763#p567763

Red Steel 2 Motion Plus Bundle: viewtopic.php?f=2&p=429474#p429474

Rodea The Sky Soidier: viewtopic.php?f=52&t=30455&p=1011260#p1011260

Sin and Punishment: viewtopic.php?p=422520#p422520

Sky Crawlers Innocent Aces: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30455&p=603494#p603494

The Munchables: viewtopic.php?f=52&p=635733#p635733

Tournament Of Legends: viewtopic.php?f=52&t=30455&p=711042#p711042

Vertigo: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30455&p=437160#p437160

Xenoblade Chronicles: viewtopic.php?f=52&p=712541#p712541

SHMUP Reviews - Blastworks - Chaos Field - Ikaruga - Space Raiders
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30455&p=542817#p542817

Wii Fit Balance Board: viewtopic.php?f=52&t=30455&p=637347#p637347

Wii Induction Charger: viewtopic.php?f=52&t=30455&p=638808#p638808

Mad Catz Pro Pad 5626: viewtopic.php?f=2&p=523255#p523255

Mayflash Adapter: viewtopic.php?p=436819#p436819
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Gamecube Games with the PS1 SCPH-1110 Flightstick: viewtopic.php?f=52&p=594613#p594613

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Wii Laser Assembly Replacement - viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30455&p=621948#p621948
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2600 and NES Gamepad to Wii Remote Mod: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30455&p=605853#p605853

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Game Case Disc Damage Prevention: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30455&p=537404#p537404

Tatsunoko vs Capcom Stick: viewtopic.php?f=2&p=565422#p565422

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Wii UDraw: viewtopic.php?f=52&t=30455&p=702136#p702136

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Wii U Nintendo Lounge: viewtopic.php?f=52&p=639666#p639666

Wii U Review: viewtopic.php?f=52&t=30455&p=640392#p640392

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pepharytheworm Japan Gamecube Import List - viewtopic.php?f=2&p=217375#p217375

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$5.00 Gamecube Component Cable at Gamestop: viewtopic.php?p=509641#p509641

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CRTGAMER wrote:Stay Vertical - Do not buy a Horizontal Wii :idea:
Of note, newer Wii consoles do not have backward compatibility with Gamecube games or controllers. There are some Wii games that have a Gamecube controller as an option. A good example is Wii Metal Slug which supports the Gamecube controller, but not the Classic Controller. The best way to play certain games such as this is with an Arcade stick that needs either the Classic Controller or Gamecube Controller connection.

Unfortunately the Gamecube Controller will no longer work on the newer Wiis. The new Wii is the same exact housing flipped horizontal. The Gamecube controller ports are covered and the Gamecube chips are gutted out of the PCB. This also prevents any newer Wii games to be developed with the Gamecube controller support. A pity most of the buying public is unaware of this change, the box has no clear labels stating the removal of Gamecube capability. :!:

The Wii console is capable of a huge range of controller and game options:
http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/buyers_guide.jsp

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This Gamecube controller icon will no longer appear on newer Wii games.
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If there were one game that really emphasizes getting an older vertical Wii, it would be Metal Slug. This is due to its uniquness in Gamecube Controller support, but No Classic Controller option.

Avoid any Wii shown as horizontal in a retail box, will not have Gamecube compatibility.

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Avoid the Wii Mini as well. At first exclusive to Canada then U.S. the console without Online or Gamecube support. :!:

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LOOK FOR THE VERTICAL WII FOR THE GAMECUBE CONTROLLER PORTS!

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There are many hidden gems on the Wii undiscovered by many gamers who ignore it. One of the features that the Wii has as an advantage over the PS3 and 360 is the Motion Sensor Controls. It is available on every single console out of the box. A double edged sword, sometimes too much motion shake required in games. On the plus, ALL FPS and Light Gun Wii games are supported for the instant aiming, so much quicker and accurate versus trying to point with an analog stick. Sony's Move and Microsoft's Kinect had to play catch up in this area of gameplay. The Wii's main weakness is that more games should allow the Classic Control option to give a gamer the choice how to play.

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My daughter gave me her Wii and preferred a NES and some games for her room. I told her to try the NES in the front room just to be sure, its a lot different from the Wii. She already did and is determined to get her own. Picked up a spare NES Top Loader console for her room.

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Proud Dad
Now I'm adamant at playing a game on the original console, but also realize some sensibility. I told her there are NES emulators for the Wii, pointing out the Dreamcast also has NES roms all convenient on a CDR. Nope, she wants to play the NES games with not the dogbone but the original rectangle controller! Okay, I have Retro influenced my twenty year old daughter. :mrgreen:

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I told her there are adapters to allow the NES controller to work on the Wii, I could even mod one to work on the Dreamcast. Nope, she wants Teenage Ninja Turtles, Chiller, Monster Party, Adams Family, Bart Space Mutants and Mario in the grey carts. Wait a minute, how did she even know some of the old titles? I just found out I have my own NES expert right in the house! I mean Chiller and Monster Party? I played Chiller in Mame, amazed the knowledge my daughter has of the older then she is system. Brings a tear to the eye of a proud parent. :D

So now I am "stuck" with the Wii. I hate motion controls, that Carnival Games endlessly advertised in Gamestop just makes me want to vomit. Especially when I hear its on the 360 as well. I almost bought a XBox just for the Steel Battalion controllers, now the new 360 mech game will require one to act like a dancing Mime. Apologies to the quiet actors.

A dedicated PS2 gamer finally trying a current console
No longer current with the Nintendo WiiU console released. Okay, meanwhile what to do with this Wii. I do need to pick up some Component cables. Well, noise did mention a very good game that I can no longer play on the HD CRT with the Dreamcast. HOUSE OF THE DEAD! Oooooh Yeah! Gamestop has it used for twenty bucks, but its new at Walmart for the same price! But only thru the website, is the "Dead" label too violent to display along with all the FPS in the store?

Maybe I should cover the Wii with a NES Skin to disguise the Wii? :?
Okay so I'll gain by utilizing the Wii for Light Gun games, maybe even pick up some a new games that are not available on my PS2. No, I will not waste my money on temporary downloads. Dead Space looks like another great Lightgun game with FPS capabilities. Sin and Punishment for an updated REZ fix. Geometry Wars too, maybe even adapt my PS2 Twin Shock to get the updated Robotron feel. Okay now I'm starting to get excited might even pick up that dumb Carnival Games, really, its only for the kids. :D

Should I just buy just New Wii games? Do used Wii games give problems with online authentication to use ALL the game features?

Strange how things turn around. noise owns a PS3 and now I own a Wii. :lol:

Wii Game List: http://www.gamefaqs.com/wii/releases/region-1
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Re: CRTGAMER trying a current console, yes Hell did freeze over!

by irixith Sun May 15, 2011 1:40 pm

CRTGAMER wrote:Should I just buy just New Wii games? Do used Wii games give problems with online authentication to use ALL the game features?


Don't get too excited about light gun games on the Wii. All suffer from the poor tracking of the Wii remote, and if you've played with a proper light gun before, you're going to be disappointed.

There is no difference between used and new Wii games in terms of online access. Just friend codes, and hoping that third parties don't take down the servers in the near future as the Wii approaches end of life.
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Re: CRTGAMER trying a current console, yes Hell did freeze o

by CRTGAMER Sun May 15, 2011 1:45 pm

irixith wrote:
CRTGAMER wrote:Should I just buy just New Wii games? Do used Wii games give problems with online authentication to use ALL the game features?
Don't get too excited about light gun games on the Wii. All suffer from the poor tracking of the Wii remote, and if you've played with a proper light gun before, you're going to be disappointed.

There is no difference between used and new Wii games in terms of online access. Just friend codes, and hoping that third parties don't take down the servers in the near future as the Wii approaches end of life.
Okay good info, thanks! As long as the game itself doesn't require online authentication to run like some "Half" games.

Really, the tracking is bad? I tried the menu already, the cursor is very responsive moving around the screen. Since the light bar is utilized, I can't picture a dark screen game being less responsive.

dsheinem wrote:I think the older console FPS titles worked great - many of them were released before mouselook became a common thing in the PC space, so the lack of dual analog was not a big deal at all...

Agree a great point in the coding leading to controller evolution making for a better FPS; the mouselook added a whole new element. A good example is Doom with multiple height, yet no vertical aim needed. Then Quake with the mouse look; now the standard controller for PC FPS is the WASD (though I still prefer the separate cursor keys) keyboard and mouse. Game consoles might be worth mentioning on the comparison of the analog controller will no where keep up to the rapid adjustment sensitivity of the mouse. Though there are some who prefer an analog stick over the mouse keyboard arrangement.

A side comparison of sorts; the Arcade joystick becoming the standard and downgraded the sensitivity control of the obsolete Spinner. Imagine games such as Tac Scan and Omega Race played without the older tight control; many SHMUPs would benefit with a Spinner.

First Game Console To Do CONTROLLER right?
The Wiimote adapted the instant control of mouse look for game consoles, followed by Move and Kinect. This is where Wii FPS games got a head start with all titles supported with the instant aim capability. On the Wii and PS4 the standard "remote" controllers now for FPS, though not sure I could get into 360 console FPS hands free.
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Re: CRTGAMER trying a current console, yes Hell did freeze over!

by Flake Sun May 15, 2011 1:51 pm

CRTGAMER wrote:Really, the tracking is bad? I tried the menu already, the cursor is very responsive moving around the screen. Since the light bar is utilized, I can't picture a dark screen game being less responsive.


As with everything, take blanket statements with a grain of salt.

It depends. Some games have sloppy tracking. Others, like the Metroid Prime games, have excellent tracking. Read reviews and, of course, look at who developed the game.

The Wii's weak online service is going to be a real boon to us retro gamers in the future - very little of the Wii's catalog was designed with online in mind as the central feature of the game. So the Wii's library will stay viable long after the servers go dark.

Are you looking for recommendation of good, non-motion sensing games?
Maybe now Nintendo will acknowledge Metroid has a fanbase?
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Re: CRTGAMER trying a current console, yes Hell did freeze over!

by CRTGAMER Sun May 15, 2011 1:56 pm

Flake wrote:
CRTGAMER wrote:Really, the tracking is bad? I tried the menu already, the cursor is very responsive moving around the screen. Since the light bar is utilized, I can't picture a dark screen game being less responsive.
As with everything, take blanket statements with a grain of salt.

It depends. Some games have sloppy tracking. Others, like the Metroid Prime games, have excellent tracking. Read reviews and, of course, look at who developed the game.

The Wii's weak online service is going to be a real boon to us retro gamers in the future - very little of the Wii's catalog was designed with online in mind as the central feature of the game. So the Wii's library will stay viable long after the servers go dark.

Are you looking for recommendation of good, non-motion sensing games?
None in particular, there are numerous review sites and guides already. However if a game really shines please make a mention with maybe a mini review.

Gaaah, now I have another console orphan to support. :lol:
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Re: CRTGAMER trying a current console, yes Hell did freeze over!

by Flake Sun May 15, 2011 1:59 pm

For what it's worth, the Wii has been a real gem. I have had one almost since launch and I'm amazed it hasn't worn out yet with how often I am using it. If you've got to adopt an orphan, the Wii is a pretty good kid to give a home to.
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Re: CRTGAMER trying a current console, yes Hell did freeze over!

by sevin0seven Sun May 15, 2011 2:06 pm

CRTGAMER wrote:CRTGAMER trying a current console, yes Hell did freeze over!


look at it this way too, the Wii looks so much better in a CRT TV than a LCD. the Wii on s-video looks nice.
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Re: CRTGAMER trying a current console, yes Hell did freeze over!

by Flake Sun May 15, 2011 2:09 pm

sevin0seven wrote:
CRTGAMER wrote:CRTGAMER trying a current console, yes Hell did freeze over!


look at it this way too, the Wii looks so much better in a CRT TV than a LCD. the Wii on s-video looks nice.


Street Fighter IV today?
Maybe now Nintendo will acknowledge Metroid has a fanbase?
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Re: CRTGAMER trying a current console, yes Hell did freeze over!

by irixith Sun May 15, 2011 2:10 pm

Flake wrote:As with everything, take blanket statements with a grain of salt.

It depends. Some games have sloppy tracking. Others, like the Metroid Prime games, have excellent tracking. Read reviews and, of course, look at who developed the game.


Just so we're clear, I said *light gun* games specifically, of which Metroid Prime most certainly isn't.

Not trying to blanket the Wii motion controls all in one go. That's really subject matter for a different topic.
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Re: CRTGAMER trying a current console, yes Hell did freeze over!

by EllertMichael Sun May 15, 2011 2:11 pm

WiiBrew.org
My suggestion is to install the Homebrew channel to guarantee the Wii will be still be appealing long after you've exhausted the Wii games that interest you.

I need to crack my Wii open and adjust the disc drive because it's making that clicking "i'm going to fail soon" noise, so these days I use my Wii for emulation and Netflix more than actual Wii games. It still gets plenty of love.

I should probably invest in an NES=>GC adapter...
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