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Are gamers too entitled?

by JayJaySut Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:24 am

This comes up in lieu of the recent Phil Fish debate, regardless of your opinion on Fish, It raises this question. Constantly I see gamers whining because a game lacks a certain feature or because it's not long enough etc. They complain when games they like don't get perfect tens and when someone like Phil Fish says something they don't like there was always "Stop saying things and go back to making games that I'm going to pirate!". People complained that the game took so long to make because "it's just pixel art" (which is actually incredibly time consuming). People have said that game devs used to be happy just making games and not talking a lot which is a good point, but didn't gamers used to be happy just playing games instead of complaining about every little thing?
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Re: Are gamers too entitled?

by MaxWar Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:28 am

I dont think gamers in general are too entitled but it seems to me that typically, entitled people are the loudest in many given situations... So they tend to overshadow the potentially more numerous not-entitled population.
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Re: Are gamers too entitled?

by KDub Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:15 am

People are too entitled on a general basis. It has nothing to do with being a gamer or not.
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Re: Are gamers too entitled?

by BoneSnapDeez Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:15 am

I complain when games aren't short enough.
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Re: Are gamers too entitled?

by RyaNtheSlayA Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:21 am

KDub wrote:People are too entitled on a general basis. It has nothing to do with being a gamer or not.
I'm still not sure whether I'm a kid or a squid now.
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Re: Are gamers too entitled?

by Gamerforlife Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:39 pm

I don't understand the whole concept of entitlement. If you don't like something, you should say you don't like it. And if someone doesn't like what you said, they should say that too

It's called communication. It makes things happen
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Re: Are gamers too entitled?

by o.pwuaioc Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:48 pm

If a game is bad, you can a) not say anything, and thus expect more bad games to come, or b) say something and be called whiney, entitled, etc.

Why is there so animosity against critical and constructive feedback? That is not entitlement, that's how life works. Consumers are the bosses of corporations. If they don't spend money on it, the corporations won't make money. So if you want to make money, listen to the people buying your product.
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Re: Are gamers too entitled?

by irixith Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:54 pm

KDub wrote:People are too entitled on a general basis. It has nothing to do with being a gamer or not.


I didn't think the perfect summation would happen so early in the thread, but bravo.
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Re: Are gamers too entitled?

by KDub Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:00 pm

Well thanks, I try. :P
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Re: Are gamers too entitled?

by Gunstar Green Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:13 pm

Gamerforlife wrote:I don't understand the whole concept of entitlement. If you don't like something, you should say you don't like it. And if someone doesn't like what you said, they should say that too

It's called communication. It makes things happen


Well criticism and entitlement are two different things.

Criticism is judging something and saying what you like or don't like.

Entitlement isn't necessarily analyzing something but making demands that suit yourself even if they're unrealistic or unfair.

For instance, the critic might complain that they dislike a game's graphics.

The entitled person will complain that the game isn't out yet even though the graphics are simple. They deserve the game right now.

But yes, I do think people sometimes use the term "entitled" incorrectly to try and shrug off fair criticism.
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