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Re: Middle eastern/southern Asia coin ID

by jfrost Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:13 pm

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ZeroAX wrote:Then I think I knew some girls (horrible people really, but of course this doesn't have anything to do with what I am about to say) who's grandfather might have been one (German who went to South America after the war).

.....I wonder if it ever crossed their minds (not the brightest people either), and how I'd feel if I knew someone I was so directly related to had committed crimes against humanity (I'm sure some of my ancestors did, but surely not up to my great grandparents).


That's pretty strange to meet people who's ancestors have done horrible things, even if they don't agree with it. I doubt they actually knew and would think about it, but hey, it's their Grandparents, not them, what does it matter to them? Sure it's horrible but there's nothing they can do about it, might as well live life the right way.

And yeah it was pretty common for former Nazi's to refuge in South America as a lot of those countries and it's people were open to fascist and communistic ideals (more so communism, but like jfrost said, some dictators liked facism), as it had yet truly been proven a horrible form of government. Not only that South America wasn't and truly still isn't as big of a player in the worlds information network, easier to lay low there rather than America or Britain. Of course later on the state of Israel was formed and they chased down all these ex-Nazi's and people like Mengele were tried in Israel courts and killed for humanitarian crimes for obvious reasons.

The bolded part is not really true.

South America in the latter half of the 20th century was ruled by mostly military dictatorships. While economically centralizing, they could hardly be called "open to communism".

In the case of Brazil, with which I'm most familiar, from 1930 to 1945, we had a fascist-like dictatorship with Getulio Vargas. From 1945 to 1964, we had democracy (admittedly, then many elected politicians flirted with Soviet socialism), then a coup established a military dictatorship. Argentina had similar developments, as well as Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay and a few other countries. While some of these governments had what would be called in America left-leaning policies, they were more in the South American tradition of caudillism.

Sympathy for socialism or communism (the case of Venezuela and Bolivia) is more of a recent development.

But yeah, you can say we do like to have shittier than average governments. In this country we only got to vote for president in 1989. I am older than democracy in Brazil.
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Re: Middle eastern/southern Asia coin ID

by brandman Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:40 pm

jfrost wrote:
brandman wrote:And yeah it was pretty common for former Nazi's to refuge in South America as a lot of those countries and it's people were open to fascist and communistic ideals (more so communism, but like jfrost said, some dictators liked facism), as it had yet truly been proven a horrible form of government. Not only that South America wasn't and truly still isn't as big of a player in the worlds information network, easier to lay low there rather than America or Britain. Of course later on the state of Israel was formed and they chased down all these ex-Nazi's and people like Mengele were tried in Israel courts and killed for humanitarian crimes for obvious reasons.

The bolded part is not really true.

South America in the latter half of the 20th century was ruled by mostly military dictatorships. While economically centralizing, they could hardly be called "open to communism".

In the case of Brazil, with which I'm most familiar, from 1930 to 1945, we had a fascist-like dictatorship with Getulio Vargas. From 1945 to 1964, we had democracy (admittedly, then many elected politicians flirted with Soviet socialism), then a coup established a military dictatorship. Argentina had similar developments, as well as Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay and a few other countries. While some of these governments had what would be called in America left-leaning policies, they were more in the South American tradition of caudillism.

Sympathy for socialism or communism (the case of Venezuela and Bolivia) is more of a recent development.

But yeah, you can say we do like to have shittier than average governments. In this country we only got to vote for president in 1989. I am older than democracy in Brazil.


As far as governments (dictators) no they weren't open to new forms of government which could overthrow their power, but the peoples of latin american countries were more open to the ideas and promises of communist manifesto. Those traditionally more poor citizens loved the idea of equal wealth etc. as we all would, but we now know communism just does not work. At the time they did not (nor did US/Canada and Western Europe) no this though and wanted to try it out. Cuba is a result of this. Now I'm not saying this is true for all said countries some more or less or non existent, and less so across the board the further away we get from that time period.

Also, you don't have to answer this but I'm just curious, from your point of view what Latin American country do you consider the most developed; best place to be?
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Re: Middle eastern/southern Asia coin ID - Solved - Iranian

by throwaway9999 Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:29 pm

That coin isn't money at all, it's an arcade token. I found one too, going through some old coins my parents had. I found your post, then I found the answer. http://www.brianrxm.com/comdir/cnstokmed_aladdinscastle.htm
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Re: Middle eastern/southern Asia coin ID - Solved - Iranian

by marurun Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:14 pm

How do you know what the coin looks like? The image doesn’t display any more for me.
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Re: Middle eastern/southern Asia coin ID - Solved - Iranian

by throwaway9999 Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:00 pm

marurun wrote:How do you know what the coin looks like? The image doesn’t display any more for me.


I only found this post through an image search for middle eastern coins, I browsed it looking for a match to the coin I have. The first time a coin that matched came up, I followed the link back to here. So somehow the image search could load it, even though it looks like a broken link here.
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