o.pwuaioc wrote:Retro is less of a nostalgic pining. When bell-bottoms came back in the 90s, that was retro fashion, but the kids wearing them weren't pining for the disco era.
Once more I want to talk about "retro" in context of the video game lexicon only. Let's not draw correlations to other mediums and formats that the word can be attributed to. When video game players are using the word "retro", they are not using it in the same context that a fashion addict would. I don't think these inherent meanings are analog.
o.pwuaioc wrote:We can indeed change the question to "Do enough people now play the PS2 as a fashionable statement of their gaming to call it a trend?"
Is it a phenomena that people play an old game console as an act of fashion sense? I do not believe this is the case.
o.pwuaioc wrote:I mean, if someone doesn't have a smart phone, is that retro?
No. But if they have a smartphone and a rotary phone, and choose to use the rotary phone instead to make a phone call, you could say they are engaging in retro behavior right? That at least is as close to an analog as we can make, but again, phones and video games are not the same thing.
o.pwuaioc wrote:They just stopped making games for the PS2 a couple years ago, and Okami was released on PS2, Wii, and PS3.
If someone makes a brand new Atari 2600 game today, does that make the new game automatically retro? Or is it just a new game on retro hardware? Is it the hardware's age that dictates its retro status more than its library? New Dreamcast games are still made from time to time today for example.
o.pwuaioc wrote:a horse and buggy is for transportation
Again, let's keep the context solely on video games. Outside analogies only serve to obfuscate the issue.
o.pwuaioc wrote:This gets straight to the heart of what I've been saying. The PS2 does not adhere to a formerly fashionable style or standard, because it's already obsolete.
That would mean that for something to be retro, it must be created with the aim of
being retro to begin with. And I understand why you are saying this. Because you are going off the definition term of "retro". But what you seem to continue to ignore is that the term "retro" has been altered to mean something wholly different in the realm of video games. If you don't believe this is true, try making a poll about the matter in the general games forum. It would be interesting to see the results of how gamers define what the word "retro" means to them. Maybe more people would agree with you, who knows?
I think it's hilarious that we've reignited a two year old debate that I had honestly forgotten about. But I want to be clear I am no way trying to goad you or belittle your point of view.