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BE WARNED: Super Advantage *edit- isolated problem*

by aeon Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:52 am

*EDIT* Found a roundtable discussion where someone had the same issue:
Here. Seems like it is a dirt/grime buildup problem, so I am going to open her up and do some cleaning. Thanks everyone for the feedback!

I just purchased a Super Advantage off of ebay for some few monies and it was delivered a week ago. It is now sitting in my closet unused and neglected.

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I was excited to get it because of the extreme awesome that is the NES Advantage and expected the same quality standard. First thing to note is that the joystick is made by Aciiware and not Nintendo. I figured Asciiware was a good bet because of the excellent fighterstick they made for the Playstation, but this joystick is not even close to that.

The SA definitely has it's high points: Excellent 'feeling' buttons, good solid weight, decent joystick response- everything that a good arcade pad should have, but one unforgivable thing fracks this controller to the end of oblivion.

The buttons stick HORRIBLY. It isn't that the buttons themselves are bad, but clearance between the button holes and buttons themselves is non existent. This means that when you mash, or just happen to press the button a bit too far on the edge (which happens alot until you get used to the strange placement of the buttons) they stick down into the button-pit and do not spring up until you rip your eyes away from the TV and fix it yourself. And that is something you just don't want to do when you are on stage four of Parodius Da!

Maybe if the buttons were rounded more for clearance this could be solved (much like the NES Advantage) but for now this controller will remain in my closet collecting dust.

With that said- don't buy a Super Advantage unless you are prepared for frustration. Also, is there an affordable arcade stick for the SNES that doesn't suck?
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Re: BE WARNED: Super Advantage

by AppleQueso Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:57 am

If anything, you can always just get your favorite ps1/ps2 stick and one of these:

http://www.tototek.com/store/index.php? ... 4ceaed2d74
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Re: BE WARNED: Super Advantage

by wip3outguy7 Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:57 pm

I have two PS1/PS2 to Saturn tototek adapters. They are lag free and work great!
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Re: BE WARNED: Super Advantage

by Quiet Flight Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:23 pm

Is this problem unique to your stick or do all of them have it.
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Re: BE WARNED: Super Advantage

by Troglodyte Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:30 pm

With that said- don't buy a Super Advantage unless you are prepared for frustration.

Hmm... I own two of these Super NES Advantage Joysticks... and I can't remember them being this bad. I also own two NES Advantage sticks as well. I don't use either of them that much because I prefer standard controllers, most of the time, and I primarily use my Retro Duo. I know I could just make an NES controller adapter for the Retro Duo; but I don't really feel the need to bother, especially since it wouldn't have all of the buttons necessary for SNES games. Right now all four of them are in storage; but I will have to pull the Super Advantages out of the closet to confirm what you said about them. I believe you; its just I haven't extensively used them for at least 12 years; and as a young child of 12 or 13; I am sure I didn't care or realize that the build quality / design of the buttons was flawed.


Is there an affordable arcade stick for the SNES that doesn't suck?

With that said; I have two Capcom Fighter Power Sticks, which I think are great.
(I have no intention of selling either one; but you can still find them if you look hard enough).

Here is a Digital Press forum post with a similar topic:
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=115425

No one there seems to be complaining about the
buttons on the Super NES Advantage, oddly.
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Re: BE WARNED: Super Advantage

by Troglodyte Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:46 pm

Is this problem unique to your stick or do all of them have it.

I just pulled both of mine out of storage.
Oddly, neither of them exhibited this problem.

There must be something wrong with yours.
I have a feeling that either it needs cleaned, may be even taken
somewhat apart and cleaned; or the springs may be wearing out.

It isn't that the buttons themselves are bad,
but clearance between the button holes and buttons themselves is non existent.

There is a decent amount of clearance between the
button holes and the buttons themselves on mine;
you can even visibly see the amount of clearance.
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Re: BE WARNED: Super Advantage

by MrPopo Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:23 pm

The biggest issue I see with the Super Advantage is the button layout. It's not suited for Street Fighter 2, which is the single greatest reason to own a stick on the SNES.
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Re: BE WARNED: Super Advantage

by swiftzx Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:37 pm

I love my genesis arcade stick made by Asciiware used only for Street fighter 2. So the Snes one isn't good?
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Re: BE WARNED: Super Advantage

by J T Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:02 pm

MrPopo wrote:The biggest issue I see with the Super Advantage is the button layout. It's not suited for Street Fighter 2, which is the single greatest reason to own a stick on the SNES.


That's why I use this guy on the bottom right.

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It's also great for playing UN Squadron.
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Re: BE WARNED: Super Advantage

by Troglodyte Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:15 pm

That's why I use this guy on the bottom right.

That's the Capcom Fighter Power stick I was talking about.
I have two of them, and there great.

Even so, I haven't experienced the button problem with the Super NES Advantage,
and I don't really playing fighters, so I can't complain too much about the layout.

With that said, if I had to choose one, I'd probably choose the Capcom Fighter Power Stick.
Although the Super NES Advantage is far from a piece of junk.
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