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 Post subject: Best Video Connections
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:48 pm 
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Anybody who wants to contribute links to guides for the modded solutions, mod kits, or hard-to-find A/V cables, please feel free! I will try to add anything relevant to the guide.

If you are unfamiliar with the different video connections and connectors, you should probably at least skim this first: Video Compatibility Matrix

If you want something more in-depth, here's some Wikipedia articles ranked ascending in order of quality of signal:


This is a guide perpetually in progress, I am by no means an expert, so if you feel I am wrong about any of this information, please tell me.

I am an American, so I only have firsthand experience/understanding with/of NTSC, if any of you want to contribute PAL information, I'll happily add it, but keep in mind our TVs are generally not compatible with RGB and SCART, so I will mark them best PAL and best NTSC as appropriate.

I tend to favor unmodded solutions as far as priority goes, as I like keeping my hardware virgin, but don't let that discourage you from submitting modded solutions, as they will be listed too!

Atari 2600

Atari 5200

Atari 7800
    NTSC best non-modded solution: RF
    PAL best non-modded solution: RGB (French 7800s only)
    Best modded solution: S-Video / S-Video Alternate

Bally Astrocade/Professional Arcade
    Best non-modded solution: RF
    Best modded solution: S-Video

ColecoVision
    Best non-modded solution: RF
    Best modded solution: VGA
    Second best modded solution: Component

Emerson Arcadia 2001
    Best non-modded solution: RF
    Best modded solution: Composite

Magnavox Odyssey 2
    Best non-modded solution: RF
    NTSC best modded solution: Composite
    PAL best modded solution: RGB (only PAL consoles)

Mattel Intellivision/Intellivision II
    Best non-modded solution: RF
    Best modded solution: Composite
    PAL Best modded solution: RGB

Sega SG-1000/SG-1000 II
    Best non-modded solution: RF
    Best modded solution: VGA
    Second best modded solution: RGB (later SG-1000 IIs only)
    Third best modded solution: Composite

Famicom
    Best non-modded solution: RF
    Best modded solution: RGB
    Second best modded solution: RGB (requires replacement PPU)
    Third best modded solution: Composite

Nintendo Entertainment System
    Best non-modded solution: Composite
    Best modded solution: RGB
    Second best modded solution: RGB (requires replacement PPU)
Third best modded solution: S-Video

Sega Mark III
    Best non-modded solution: Composite
    Best modded solution: RGB Present in A/V, need amplification
    Second best modded solution: Component (video encoder outputs component video but no mod has been found yet)

Sega Master System
    PAL Best non-modded solution: RGB
    NTSC best modded solution: S-video

Sega Master System II
    Best non-modded solution: RF
    PAL Best modded solution: RGB
    NTSC best modded solution: S-Video

Nintendo Entertainment System 2
    Best non-modded solution: RF
    Best modded solution: RGB
    Second best modded solution: RGB (requires replacement PPU)
    Third best modded solution: S-Video
    Fourth best modded solution: Composite

Super Nintendo Entertainment System/Super Famicom
    Best non-modded solution: RGB
    Second Best non-modded solution: S-Video

Sega Genesis/Mega Drive

Super Nintendo Entertainment System Mini/Super Famicom Jr.

Victor/Sega Wondermega
    Best non-modded solution: S-Video
    Best modded solution: RGB

Neo Geo AES
    Best non-modded solution: RGB
    Best modded solution: Component
    Second best modded solution: S-Video

Neo Geo CD
    Best non-modded solution: RGB
    Second best non-modded solution: S-Video

Atari Jaguar
    Best non-modded solution: RGB

TurboGrafx-16/PC Engine
    Best non-modded solution: Composite (with TurboBooster, TG-CD or custom cable)
    Best modded solution: RGB/RGB
    Second best modded solution: S-Video

TurboDuo/PC Engine Duo/Duo-R/Duo-RX
    Best non-modded solution: Composite
    Best modded solution: RGB
    Second best modded solution: S-Video

SuperGrafx
    Best non-modded solution: Composite
    Best modded solution: RGB
    Second best modded solution: S-Video

3DO
    Best non-modded solution: S-Video
    Best modded solution: RGB

Amiga CD32
    Best non-modded solution: S-Video
    Best modded solution: RGB

Sega Saturn
    Best non-modded solution: RGB
    Second best non-modded solution: S-Video

Nintendo 64

PlayStation
    Best non-modded solution: RGB
    Second best non-modded solution: S-Video

Dreamcast
    Best non-modded solution: VGA for games that support 480p
    Second best non-modded solution: RGB
    Third best non-modded solution: S-Video

PlayStation 2
    Best non-modded solution: VGA via SoG/Blaze/Xploder bootdisk for games that can be forced into 480p
    Second best non-modded solution: Component
    Third best non-modded solution: RGB
    Best modded solution: Universal VGA cable

GameCube
    Best non-modded solution: Component for games that support 480p
    Second best non-modded solution: S-video
    PAL best non-modded solution: RGB

Xbox


Xbox 360
    Best non-modded solution: HDMI
    Second best non-modded solution: VGA
    Third best non-modded solution: Component

PlayStation 3
    Best non-modded solution: HDMI
    Second best non-modded solution: Component
    Third best non-modded solution: RGB

Nintendo Wii
    Best non-modded solution: Component
    PAL third best non-modded solution: RGB

Nintendo Wii U
    Best non-modded solution: HDMI
    Second best non-modded solution: Component
    Third best non-modded solution: RGB

If you have any information or corrections you'd like me to add, just post below, or drop me a PM.

Edits

Older changes:
Edits for 2/15/11:
    Added Atari 2600 and 5200 (Thanks CRTGamer)
    Added PAL information for SNES and Dreamcast (Thanks Hateshinai)
    Added basic Master System information, I am not sure of it, so will some experts please chime in? (Thanks Scooter, I'll add the other Sega systems later on)
    Formatting changes
    Clarification and correction
I only own the systems listed in my signature, so I don't have much experience with the rest, but I'll be researching the rest to the best of my ability.

Edits for 2/16/11:
    Added Atari Jaguar, TurboGrafx-16, and Panasonic 3DO (Thanks Segatari2002)
    Added Atari 2600 solution (Thanks Hobie-wan)
    Added Genesis information (Thanks cyborc)
    Added Saturn, PS1/2, Xbox, information, (Thanks Anapan)

As always, please tell me if I get something wrong, thanks to everyone who has contributed so far!

Edits for 2/17/11:
    Removed RGB information for NTSC, it is possible to use RGB on our displays, but not really practical.
Edits for 2/27/11:
    Added 7800 and Neo Geos (Thanks Segatari2002)
    Decided to bold all the titles
Edits for 4/9/12:
    Added corrections from ApolloBoy.
Edits for 7/11/12:
    Added links to guides for some of the mods.
Edits for 7/12/12:
    Added links for some more. (Thanks ApolloBoy)
Edits for 7/27/13
    Added links for more/better mod guides for Atari 2600, SNES JR. and N64. (Thanks Ziggy587!)
    Fixed some mistakes, added more guides. (Thanks again, Ziggy587)
    Added Wii U, corrected order of last gen consoles (PS3 came out before Wii, dur).
Edits for 8/18/13
    Added Monoprice video compatibility matrix guide.
    Added Wikipedia articles on major video formats covered in this guide.
    Cleaned up description, formatting, made things a bit more succinct. Hiding all but latest edits in spoilers tags now.
Edits for 8/19/13
    Added S-Video back into the universe. Derp. Thanks, BitFaced!
Edits for 9/21/13
    Removed VGA option from Wii, as it is not true VGA output.

Edits for 1/13/14
    Added updated solutions for:
    Colecovision
    Mattel Intellivision/Intellivision II
    Sega SG-1000/SG-1000 II
    Famicom
    Nintendo Entertainment System
    Sega Master System
    Sega Master System II
    Nintendo Entertainment System 2
    Thanks ApolloBoy!
    Added clarification about PAL versus NTSC

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 Post subject: Re: Best Video Connections
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:13 pm 
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Looks like this will be a great guide!

As in the Gamecube choices
Agree with your Dreamcast VGA choice, but maybe a mention of SVideo as a secondary connection for non VGA supported games or non VGA HDs?

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CRTGAMER wrote:
Looks like this will be a great guide!

As in the Gamecube choices
Agree with your Dreamcast VGA choice, but maybe a mention of SVideo as a secondary connection for non VGA supported games or non VGA HDs?


Oh of course, I forgot about that.

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Thanks. Another one or two:

Atari 2600
Non modded - RF
Modded - Composite

Atari 5200
Non Modded - RF (Auto Power Switch on 4 port)
Modded - SVideo

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 Post subject: Re: Best Video Connections
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PAL SNES and Dreamcast both support RGB with no mods. The quality is better than S-Video.
Do American and Japanese Dreamcasts support RGB? I seem to remember using my Japanese DC with RGB but I'm not 100% sure since I usually use a PAL one (and VGA) instead.

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What about Sega Master System, Genesis/Sega CD/32X and Saturn?

Also, keep in mind that not all games will display video with component cables on a PS2. For example, Ico will not output video when the PS2 console is connected with component cables. I would suspect the same in true for other older PS2 games.

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Scooter wrote:
Also, keep in mind that not all games will display video with component cables on a PS2. For example, Ico will not output video when the PS2 console is connected with component cables. I would suspect the same in true for other older PS2 games.
Both my NTSC and PAL at 60Hz ICO works, 480i still works with the Component hookup.

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CRTGAMER wrote:
Scooter wrote:
Also, keep in mind that not all games will display video with component cables on a PS2. For example, Ico will not output video when the PS2 console is connected with component cables. I would suspect the same in true for other older PS2 games.
Both my NTSC and PAL at 60Hz ICO works, 480i still works with the Component hookup.


PS2 fat or new slim? My fat won't output video with component connected with certain older games.

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Scooter wrote:
CRTGAMER wrote:
Scooter wrote:
Also, keep in mind that not all games will display video with component cables on a PS2. For example, Ico will not output video when the PS2 console is connected with component cables. I would suspect the same in true for other older PS2 games.
Both my NTSC and PAL at 60Hz ICO works, 480i still works with the Component hookup.
PS2 fat or new slim? My fat won't output video with component connected with certain older games.
Both my fats work fine, I'm installing a PS2 game at the moment, so can't check which revisions I have. But I do have two versions, one with Firewire, one without.

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Scooter wrote:
Also, keep in mind that not all games will display video with component cables on a PS2. For example, Ico will not output video when the PS2 console is connected with component cables. I would suspect the same in true for other older PS2 games


Unless I hear someone else verify this, I'm just gonna go with CRTGamer on this, I have a PS2 with component cables, and I've never had an issue with any games. Might just be your TV, man.

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