Windows, Mac, DOS, and all those-other personal computing platforms
User avatar
SuperDerpBro
128-bit
 
Posts: 503
Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:03 pm
Location: Victoria B.C. Canada

Recommend a good game to learn mouse and keyboard?

by SuperDerpBro Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:17 am

I've always hated the feel of it and never really gave it more than 5 mins before giving up. I didn't get into PC games until they started getting 360 controller support. Not that i'm super into it now, heh. I'd like to try one more time. Give it a real go. Maybe complete an entire game and learn to get used to the basics. I was thinking an older game would be best to start with. Less complex controls? Maybe Half Life? Black Mesa? :mrgreen:
Child owned from a INTERNET GAS filled home.
User avatar
Anapan
Next-Gen
 
Posts: 3145
Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:15 am
Location: BC, Canada

Re: Recommend a good game to learn mouse and keyboard?

by Anapan Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:39 am

You just need a Keyboard Joystick!
https://racketboy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=51806
BTW, if you find a seller with more than one, I desperately need one as well.
I wanna game with the winners - I want to dominate Jill of the Jungle!
ImageImageImageImage
ImageImageImageImage
User avatar
isiolia
Next-Gen
 
Posts: 5710
Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 1:52 pm
Location: Virginia

Re: Recommend a good game to learn mouse and keyboard?

by isiolia Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:26 am

To a fair extent, probably whichever one you feel like playing. I think the caveat there is that mouselook/freelook wasn't necessarily a given pre-Quake, and even that needed a toggle for it. FPS games were iterating on things fairly fast at that point, so things in the general release window of Half-Life n' stuff might be as far back as I'd go.

Offhand though, I would suggest playing through Portal (or the second one, or both) to acclimate to aiming with timing being fairly relaxed most of the time, and simply avoiding things that might shoot back. Then maybe move on to an arena shooter - one of the Unreal Tournament games or Quake III for instance, which are fast and encourage learning to incorporate strafing and so on into movement. Also probably the sorts of games many of us learned on.
User avatar
SuperDerpBro
128-bit
 
Posts: 503
Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:03 pm
Location: Victoria B.C. Canada

Re: Recommend a good game to learn mouse and keyboard?

by SuperDerpBro Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:23 pm

Anapan wrote:You just need a Keyboard Joystick!
https://racketboy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=51806
BTW, if you find a seller with more than one, I desperately need one as well.
I wanna game with the winners - I want to dominate Jill of the Jungle!

Cant.. Tell.. If.. Serious.. haha


isiolia wrote:To a fair extent, probably whichever one you feel like playing. I think the caveat there is that mouselook/freelook wasn't necessarily a given pre-Quake, and even that needed a toggle for it. FPS games were iterating on things fairly fast at that point, so things in the general release window of Half-Life n' stuff might be as far back as I'd go.

Offhand though, I would suggest playing through Portal (or the second one, or both) to acclimate to aiming with timing being fairly relaxed most of the time, and simply avoiding things that might shoot back. Then maybe move on to an arena shooter - one of the Unreal Tournament games or Quake III for instance, which are fast and encourage learning to incorporate strafing and so on into movement. Also probably the sorts of games many of us learned on.


That's perfect. I have Portal on Steam. Great game. Wonder why no 3?

Cheers
Child owned from a INTERNET GAS filled home.
User avatar
marurun
Moderator
 
Posts: 10100
Joined: Sat May 06, 2006 8:51 am
Location: Cleveland, OH

Re: Recommend a good game to learn mouse and keyboard?

by marurun Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:12 pm

SuperDerpBro wrote:That's perfect. I have Portal on Steam. Great game. Wonder why no 3?


Valve can't count to 3. The never-ending lack of Half Life 3 is evidence of this.
B/S/T thread
My Classic Games Collection
My Steam Profile
The PC Engine Software Bible Forum, with Shoutbox chat - the new Internet home for PC Engine fandom.
User avatar
SuperDerpBro
128-bit
 
Posts: 503
Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:03 pm
Location: Victoria B.C. Canada

Re: Recommend a good game to learn mouse and keyboard?

by SuperDerpBro Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:11 pm

Haha

Edit: I'm gonna need a better mouse.
Child owned from a INTERNET GAS filled home.
User avatar
SuperDerpBro
128-bit
 
Posts: 503
Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:03 pm
Location: Victoria B.C. Canada

Re: Recommend a good game to learn mouse and keyboard?

by SuperDerpBro Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:11 pm

Doing okay in Portal. What is the best way to turn around? Like when you get into the elevator at the end of a level. Feels really awkward with the mouse.

Curious, the last game i played heavily on PC was the Witcher 3. I played with a controller. If using a KB how does differing speeds of walking work? Is it just RUNNING AT ALL TIMES and a toggle for slow? What if i want to go between slowest and sprinting? lol

What about games like Deus EX? I tried KB with the newest one a while back. The amount of hand gymnastics needed to do very basic tasks was pretty insane.

No games installed (other than Portal and Hob) ATM or i guess i could just test.

:D
Child owned from a INTERNET GAS filled home.
User avatar
Ack
Moderator
 
Posts: 21503
Joined: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:26 pm
Location: Atlanta, GA

Re: Recommend a good game to learn mouse and keyboard?

by Ack Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:50 pm

What feels awkward about turning? It might be you need to learn to handle a different mouse sensitivity, so you can turn faster or slower depending on your playstyle.

Though a warning: once you get used to a high sensitivity in PC gaming, playing on consoles can feel agonizingly slow. As much as controller jockeys may want to believe otherwise, "twitch" is really a keyboard and mouse-type thing.
Image
Image
I have a movie review website now: https://moviereviewsbyamook.com/
User avatar
SuperDerpBro
128-bit
 
Posts: 503
Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:03 pm
Location: Victoria B.C. Canada

Re: Recommend a good game to learn mouse and keyboard?

by SuperDerpBro Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:57 pm

Every time i do it i feel like i have to move it too far right, or left. Or move it, pick it up, place it back to center mouse pad, and then move it a bit more to do a full 180.
Child owned from a INTERNET GAS filled home.
User avatar
marurun
Moderator
 
Posts: 10100
Joined: Sat May 06, 2006 8:51 am
Location: Cleveland, OH

Re: Recommend a good game to learn mouse and keyboard?

by marurun Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:10 pm

Increase your mouse sensitivity. You should be able to turn a full 360 on your mouse pad without picking up and repositioning.
B/S/T thread
My Classic Games Collection
My Steam Profile
The PC Engine Software Bible Forum, with Shoutbox chat - the new Internet home for PC Engine fandom.
Return to Personal Computers

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests