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Re: The Retro PC Thread

by Anapan Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:38 am

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Try one of these - I think one would work (don't remember which)
http://anapan.525lines.moe/joyemu.zip
http://anapan.525lines.moe/joyshock.zip
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by Ziggy587 Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:08 am

Thanks, Anapan! I'll give them both a try this weekend. Or possibly tomorrow, if I end up having a snow day. :D
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Re: The Retro PC Thread

by BoneSnapDeez Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:43 am

I had an old Gravis pad. You know what prompted me to finally get one? SNES emulation. :lol:
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Re: The Retro PC Thread

by noiseredux Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:46 am

BoneSnapDeez wrote:I had an old Gravis pad. You know what prompted me to finally get one? SNES emulation. :lol:


such a classic controller. I loved that thing back in the day. It was huge when I got that as it replaced the old stock Tandy joystick I had.
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Re: The Retro PC Thread

by Ziggy587 Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:54 pm

My first PC gamepad was the Logitech Wingman Rumblepad...

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I got it during the early days of XP. I did most of my gaming on consoles during that time, and the few games I was playing on the PC didn't require a gamepad. I picked it up purely for emulators. I thought it was awesome that it had 6 face buttons as well as two shoulder buttons, so I could use it for Genesis or SNES and retain the feeling of those controllers.

I never used the software, but I still have the disc that came with it. I should check it out to see if it has any JoyToKey type features. I'm guessing the software would probably work with 98, given the time that it was purchased.

The only thing is I was never a big fan of the D-pad. It's OK for platformers, but I don't think it would work well for Mortal Kombat.
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Re: The Retro PC Thread

by Ziggy587 Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:12 pm

Anapan wrote:@ziggy
Try one of these - I think one would work (don't remember which)
http://anapan.525lines.moe/joyemu.zip
http://anapan.525lines.moe/joyshock.zip


I just tried them in my virtual Win98 machine and they work fine. They're both the same program (different versions maybe?) called "JoyShock". The problem is that they're trial versions that will close 10 minutes after launch unless you purchase a key.
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Re: The Retro PC Thread

by Anapan Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:09 pm

Huh, I thought one had a couple of others in it's archive. Guess I'll have to rebuild it when I get home - this is a recovery of my old webspace on my friend's server, and is missing some stuff I used to host...

Glad it worked tho. The company that made it went bankrupt, and released the keymaker with it as freeware (glad I found it before their website went down). One of them should include it keymaker.exe or similar.

If one didn't work, I figured you might get better program comparability by installing the unofficial 98se service pack:
http://www.htasoft.com/u98sesp/
The list of features is incredible, and in my experience it doesn't slow 98's responsiveness. Highly recommended.
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Re: The Retro PC Thread

by Ziggy587 Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:25 pm

Anapan wrote: The company that made it went bankrupt, and released the keymaker with it as freeware (glad I found it before their website went down). One of them should include it keymaker.exe or similar.


DOH! There is a file called makekey.exe, when I saw it I assumed it was some sort of helper app to bind keys or something. After messing with the main exe and then finding out you needed to register, I had already completely forget about the makekey file I saw. I guess that's what I get for racing and not paying attention.

I just tried the key gen and it works perfectly. Thanks for sharing this!

Anapan wrote:If one didn't work, I figured you might get better program comparability by installing the unofficial 98se service pack:
http://www.htasoft.com/u98sesp/
The list of features is incredible, and in my experience it doesn't slow 98's responsiveness. Highly recommended.


I'll have to check that out, thanks for the link. For the longest time I've been meaning to look into getting a Win98SE ISO that's fully up to date, or checking out the unofficial stuff, but I guess I've just been too lazy.
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Re: The Retro PC Thread

by Ziggy587 Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:51 pm

I had a snow day yesterday, so I finally took the time and ordered a couple of things I've been meaning to.

It's really awesome that you can still buy some PC hardware/peripherals new from retailers that support Win98 out of the box. There's a few things I wanted to order before they disappear.

USB 2.0 PCI card: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... -_-Product

I have a few PCs that only have USB 1.1 on board, and on some of these PCs it would be nice to have USB 2.0 transfer speeds. The above linked card has drivers for Windows 98SE, ME, 2000, XP(32/64bit), Vista(32/64bit), 7(32/64bit), Server 2008 R2, and Linux. And what's more, a driver CD comes in the box! This is great since I'm not looking to take my Win98/XP PCs online, so I don't have to deal with the hassle of downloading the drivers on one computer then transferring them to another. Also, it's like buying it in 1999!

This isn't the only USB 2.0 PCI card available that still supports Win98, but this is the best one I found. 4 external ports, one internal header and one internal port (so you can use basically any kind of front panel device).

LAN 10/100 PCI card: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... -_-Product

Again, comes with a driver CD and it supports Windows 98/98SE, ME, 2000, XP, NT 4.0, Vista 32/64bit. And it has Plug n Play support for 7, 8 and Linux. There's more LAN cards to choose from that still support 98, this is just the one I went with. edit: The description says it comes with a driver CD, but it in fact does not. The instructions give you a link to download the drivers. Lame. It does come with a low profile bracket, however.

WD 80GB PATA HDD: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... gnorebbr=1

Again, NewEgg has more to choose from, this is just the one I went with. You're kinda rolling the dice when you get a used HDD, so it's nice to still be able to get brand new PATA HDDs. If I had the money, I would love to pick up more of these before they disappear.



I know this stuff is easy to get used off eBay, I just think it's nice that you can still get it new from a retailer. Also, sometimes it's a pain in the ass to find drivers for certain things. For example, I have a USB 2.0 PCI card that it took me several hours to find a driver for. It's awesome that this stuff still comes with a driver CD, as most things today just come with a small piece of paper that tell you to download the driver from the manufacture's website. Hard drives are hit or miss, and we all know that "refurbished" is just code for "we pulled it from a business computer that was powered on 24/7 for 10 years and all we did was wipe it."
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Re: The Retro PC Thread

by Anapan Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:29 am

:D - drunk and holding back excessive typing.
Agreed, tho I have way too many <300G pata hard drives to condone buying one. Nice to buy new - Newegg is my silk road with cheap shipping from the orient's slave labour. The flash memory is so cheap I buy it in bulk and trade it for beer.
I have an excessive amount of PCI cards, and friends have even more. Toss me a PM and I'd be happy to unload a pile for cost of shipping. There's some specialty ones I cannot imagine using again, but could be useful in your build.
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