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Re: The toxicity of online gaming.

by RyaNtheSlayA Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:11 pm

lisalover1 wrote:The only online shooter that I can really say I play is TF2, where luckily, the community isn't by and large mean-spirited, but instead just silly and bizarre.


I've been playing TF2 a bit again over the last week and bizarre is an understatement. :lol:

Definitely not much in the way of mean spirit though. It's surprising to me considering the fact it's F2P. Every other F2P game I play seems to by large have the worst communities.
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Re: The toxicity of online gaming.

by BogusMeatFactory Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:15 pm

RyaNtheSlayA wrote:
lisalover1 wrote:The only online shooter that I can really say I play is TF2, where luckily, the community isn't by and large mean-spirited, but instead just silly and bizarre.


I've been playing TF2 a bit again over the last week and bizarre is an understatement. :lol:

Definitely not much in the way of mean spirit though. It's surprising to me considering the fact it's F2P. Every other F2P game I play seems to by large have the worst communities.


Bizarre indeed. I am a member of the Lunch Bunch, a group of Heavy Players that flood servers and eat sandwiches peacefully.
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Re: The toxicity of online gaming.

by cha cha Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:17 pm

fastbilly1 wrote:
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fastbilly1 wrote:Man I DID read that as: "decking opponent" as in milling their library to 0 cards, preventing them for drawing for their next turn and effectively ending the game.

Then thought how scrubby a tournament would be for kicking someone who used a crappy strat to begin with!!

NOW I realize he meant "decking" as in punching someone! :lol: wow, MtG terminology got the best of me on that one! My bad... :oops:

Actually he was probably decking them then decked them. He was known to use strategies like that. Then again, I did have a deck of lighting bolts and mountains, so I am not much better...


Well a deck of lightning bolts beyond x4 copies of it, is simply illegal to begin with, lol. Casual decks that don't adhere to tournament or normal game rules are just whatever. Generally when people play absurd decks like "all lightning bolts", it is amongst friends or at least people who acknowledge that this is a 'friendly' or 'casual' match and normal rules are bent thrown out the window altogether, and you agree how the game is to be played for that match... and at that point, how could anyone get mad? (rhetorical lol, don't answer!) :lol:

In Alpha and Beta it was legal, I dont think it was outlawed until Unlimited. It was institued because of the nasty Plague rat deck. I won a legit tournament back in 1992 or 1993 with my lighting bolt deck before the local tournament scene outlawed it. Granted, I have not played Magic since 1996 so the game has changed a good bit.


Not to belabor the point, but I have been playing just as long and there was never a period in the game where more than 4 copies of a card (other than basic land or a card that specifically states it may have more than 4 in a deck within it's text) was legal. But in 1992, we all had wacky concepts of what was good and also very loose interpretations of rules, so I could imagine you getting away with that in a tournament back then... it was basically the wild west of gaming in those years, no infrastructure for CCGs tournies at all.

I know after playing Spellfire, I argued that a dumb game like Magic would never last... Boy, that may have been the wrongest I have ever been in my life. :?
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Re: The toxicity of online gaming.

by fastbilly1 Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:21 pm

cha cha wrote:I know after playing Spellfire, I argued that a dumb game like Magic would never last... Boy, that may have been the wrongest I have ever been in my life. :?

You and me both. Granted Spellfire lives on:
http://www.spellfire.net/boosters/
Granted it is print to play, and there is no real tournament scene, but there are new cards for it, and the game still plays well.
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Re: The toxicity of online gaming.

by MrPopo Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:05 pm

cha cha wrote:Not to belabor the point, but I have been playing just as long and there was never a period in the game where more than 4 copies of a card (other than basic land or a card that specifically states it may have more than 4 in a deck within it's text) was legal. But in 1992, we all had wacky concepts of what was good and also very loose interpretations of rules, so I could imagine you getting away with that in a tournament back then... it was basically the wild west of gaming in those years, no infrastructure for CCGs tournies at all.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/a ... daily/jc20

The original deck construction rules were minimum of 40 cards and no other rules. It wasn't until the original DCI floor rules that we got the 60/4 of rule.

http://www.wizards.com/dci/downloads/fi ... rrules.txt
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Re: The toxicity of online gaming.

by flex wood Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:35 pm

:lol: this reminds me, my little brother had been playing the magic game on psn and I asked what button do you press to punch that nerd in the face and take his cards. Last time I was watching him play there was a naked guy. He was using the playstation eye camera to broadcast video. Good times.
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Re: The toxicity of online gaming.

by MrNash Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:07 am

About the only time I played online seriously was when I was into WoW and that game was really toxic then. Right up until the end of Lich King vitriol was flying. Even if it wasn't directed at me, it made for an unpleasant environment and even found myself leaving raids because the BS would get on my nerves and I had better things to do than sit through that.

Nowadays, I'm very happy to spend most of my time just playing single-player games. The experience is just so much comfier. =)
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Re: The toxicity of online gaming.

by BogusMeatFactory Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:22 pm

Saw this article today and thought it was pretty interesting.

Curious to know what everyone thinks about this?

Exposing Gaming's Worst Jerks

In all honesty, I don't think this will do much, since I have seen numerous people gain fame and popularity on Youtube for their gimmicks, causing people to act out even more when they see them online.
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Re: The toxicity of online gaming.

by BoringSupreez Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:43 pm

MrNash wrote:About the only time I played online seriously was when I was into WoW and that game was really toxic then. Right up until the end of Lich King vitriol was flying. Even if it wasn't directed at me, it made for an unpleasant environment and even found myself leaving raids because the BS would get on my nerves and I had better things to do than sit through that.

Nowadays, I'm very happy to spend most of my time just playing single-player games. The experience is just so much comfier. =)

Maybe WoW was bad back then, but I gave it a try recently at the request of a friend and I didn't run into any mean-spiritedness or anything like that. Maybe it's mellowed out.
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Re: The toxicity of online gaming.

by Retrogamer0001 Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:45 pm

BogusMeatFactory wrote:Saw this article today and thought it was pretty interesting.

Curious to know what everyone thinks about this?

Exposing Gaming's Worst Jerks

In all honesty, I don't think this will do much, since I have seen numerous people gain fame and popularity on Youtube for their gimmicks, causing people to act out even more when they see them online.


Interesting read, though the idiot in that sample video clip just sounds like a whiny p***y.
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