pierrot wrote:BoringSupreez wrote:If by that you mean people don't have the right to not hear insults and offensive speech when they voluntarily choose to go online and not mute the microphones, then no, they don't have that right. It's not a right, and it shouldn't be considered one.
That's not really the issue at hand. This is about individuals being verbally abused and attacked while playing a game online.
Perhaps a better question: Do you believe people have the right to be treated like human beings in their daily lives? Because the internet is increasingly becoming part of the average person's daily life.
If they're stupid enough to go play an online game, be confronted with offensive speech or verbal abuse, and then choose to continue listening to it instead of muting the player, no, they don't have that right. You have the tools to not listen to that sort of thing. If you're too stupid to use them, that's on you.
pierrot wrote:BoringSupreez wrote:Using racist/sexist terms like "white/male privilege" does nothing to further the living conditions of others. Two wrongs don't make a right.
What this sounds like to me: 'I'm offended by the term, therefore, I'm entitled to ignore any empirical evidence that might suggest bias toward men and people of Caucasian descent in things such as funding of school systems and education, voting laws, wage disparity, general upward mobility, or otherwise.'
What this sounds like to me: "White men have things better than other people, and that makes me mad. They should feel guilty." How about focusing on helping others up to our level instead of focusing on jealousy and guilt? As I said in the quote, using racist terms helps nothing.
Besides, I thought I had the right not to hear offensive things online. Or do you expect me to actually utilize the block feature that's been provided to me?
BogusMeatFactory wrote:BoringSupreez wrote:MrPopo wrote:There's a difference between "free speech" and "being a jackass".
True... but you can't really take away the right to be a jackass without stepping on the right of free speech. Who's going to be the judge of what's jackassery, and what isn't? Maybe I consider everything that I disagree with to be jackassery.
That's why the Neo Nazis are allowed to parade through towns on occasion; as much as Neo Nazis suck it's their right to believe and say what they want.
During a Neo Nazi parade no one goes up to a jewish person and says they are going to rape and murder their family. Those parades have to be peaceful and civil, even if their beliefs are skewed in my personal opinion.
People scream obscenities and other hateful things, typically the onlookers. There's a reason they always have the police around when they plan a display. Those are not peaceful happy events, even if they're not usually physically violent.
BogusMeatFactory wrote:With games, it should be the same way. People are taking the volatile environment and bringing it to a whole new level and it is wrong. You are not making a division between being a jackass and being malicious and harmful.
You can not tell me that calling the swat team on a player in real life is acceptable. you can not tell me that telling someone that they are going to be raped is acceptable. It is not and should never be.
Calling the SWAT team was an extreme, isolated occurrence. Not exactly something we should be worrying about; you have a higher chance of getting struck by lightening.
As for threats of rape or death, how often does anyone actually follow through on that stuff? You know it's not real, and the attention you give it encourages even more behavior of that type. That's all they want, is to see you get butthurt. You're letting them win right now.
No, that behavior is not good, but as I've said multiple times now you have the ability to block them, and you can bring their behavior up to an admin. I don't know what more you think you need, but you don't.