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Re: Best exclusives per console still?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:06 pm
by postulio
This is an interesting idea. I've been thinking about this a bit in the past but came to the conclusion that since all the Digital re-releases are just emulation and essentially a purchase of nothing more than a license, then they shouldn't count because emulation is emulation and I could do that and so much more (and for longer) without having to rely on official channels.

I can get every cartridge game ever to work on any off the shelf xbox... does that count? why not? because it's not official? I would argue that the copyright standing of a game is not relevant in the fact that it works on other consoles.

considering you can play pretty much every game up to and including the sixth console generation on your smartphone, "exclusivity" is already irrelevant. People want those original games because they're *original*. not because they can't play them in any other way.

Once you exclude official emulation digital marketplaces like PSN, VC and even the NES/SNES apps on the Switch from counting towards this list, you're pretty much back where you started.

You can do what you want, but it just feels like a wasted effort.

The releases I *would* count as exclusivity shattering are either native ports or updates. So the Final Fantasy Chronicles/Anthology/Origins for PSX, Chrono Trigger for DS, Ikaruga on the Gamecube, Mario 3D All-Stars and even the Collection of Mana for Switch

Re: Best exclusives per console still?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:50 am
by pook99
This is an interesting topic, I am assuming for the purpose of this list we are looking at how the game plays not just the title.

So for example, look at strider, we have an nes game called strider, a modern update with the same name, and the genesis game.

The genesis game is a straight port of the arcade so that is not an exclusive.

The nes game has the same name but is a completely different game, so i would count that.

The update is also a completely different game but was released on multiple platforms so that would not count. Is that a correct way of classifying these?

How do we tackle a game like punch out? While punch out has been re released virtually, Mike Tysons punch out never has, even though it is essentially the same game would mtpo count as an exclusive?

How about games that are close but have exclusive features or something that makes them feel completely different? So for example, would stuff like new play control Pikmin and resident evil 4 wii edition count as exclusive? Thought they are basically ports the game play experience is completely different due to motion controls.

Re: Best exclusives per console still?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:46 am
by prfsnl_gmr
I think Strider for the NES would count, but it was re-released for the GBA!

I counted Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out!! because it’s still the only way to fight Mike Tyson in a Punch-Out!! game, even if Punch-Out!! featuring Mr. Dream has been re-released a few times. For close calls, I think substantial amounts of exclusive content/features are enough for a game to count as an exclusive.

Re: Best exclusives per console still?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:56 am
by BomberDino
pook99 wrote:new play control Pikmin


Thank you. I did not know this existed. It should make the game a lot easier to play.

Re: Best exclusives per console still?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:03 pm
by fastbilly1
postulio wrote:You can do what you want, but it just feels like a wasted effort.

I appreciate your comments, but I will respond to this one right now. It is a way to look at a library through a different set of lenses. If you look at any retro site, you will see the same sets of lists - top 10 of x, best titles, hidden gems, worst, etc. This is an attempt at something new to spark discussion.

I am fully aware most people will just emulate by grabbing a full romset. Ease will almost always trump everything else.

Re: Best exclusives per console still?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:05 pm
by prfsnl_gmr
I think that this is a great thought experiment. Here’s my list for another system, the Gameboy Color:

Hamtaro: Ham Hams Unite!
Kirby Tilt ‘n Tumble
Mega Man Extreme 1-2
Metal Gear Solid: Ghost Babel
Project S-11
Wendy: Every Witch Way

While some of the GBC’s best games found their way to the 3DS Virtual Console, the primary problem with this system is that so many of its best games are ports. Anyway...did I leave out any great games?

Re: Best exclusives per console still?

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:27 am
by alienjesus
prfsnl_gmr wrote:I think that this is a great thought experiment. Here’s my list for another system, the Gameboy Color:

Hamtaro: Ham Hams Unite!
Kirby Tilt ‘n Tumble
Mega Man Extreme 1-2
Metal Gear Solid: Ghost Babel
Project S-11
Wendy: Every Witch Way

While some of the GBC’s best games found their way to the 3DS Virtual Console, the primary problem with this system is that so many of its best games are ports. Anyway...did I leave out any great games?


A few more off the top of my head, hopefully these actually are all exclusives:

Warlocked
Return of the Ninja
The Fish Files
Looney Tunes Collector: Martian Alert!
Looney Tunes Collector: Martian Revenge!
Survival Kids
Sccoby Doo: Classic Creep Capers
Metal Gear Solid
Perfect Dark
Resident Evil Gaiden
Harry Potter & The Philosophers Stone
Harry Potter & The Chamber of Secrets
Blaster Master: Enemy Below
Bionic Commando: Elite Forces
Bomberman Quest
Metal Walker
Monkey Puncher


There's also some Japan only stuff - Pokemon Card GB2 for example, or Survival Kids 2, which probably need translation patches for most.

It's worth noting that a lot of GBC games which ostensibly sound like ports of console games are so extremely different that they arent really ports but completely new entries in the series. Like perfect dark, for example.

There's also a few licensed games in my list, but it's ones I think are genuinely quite good. Scooby Doo Classic Creep Capers is a point & click adventure with strong LucasArts vibes, and the Harry Potter games are actually RPGs. The Looney Tunes adventures are a bit weaker but are fun exploration games nonetheless.

Re: Best exclusives per console still?

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:39 am
by prfsnl_gmr
alienjesus wrote:[
Warlocked
Return of the Ninja
The Fish Files
Looney Tunes Collector: Martian Alert!
Looney Tunes Collector: Martian Revenge!
Survival Kids
Sccoby Doo: Classic Creep Capers
Metal Gear Solid
Perfect Dark
Resident Evil Gaiden
Harry Potter & The Philosophers Stone
Harry Potter & The Chamber of Secrets
Blaster Master: Enemy Below
Bionic Commando: Elite Forces

Bomberman Quest
Metal Walker
Monkey Puncher


Great list. Sadly, however, we have to strike a couple because they were released for the 3DS Virtual Console.

Re: Best exclusives per console still?

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:55 pm
by pook99
Going through my wii collection to try and answer this question for the wii. Let me know if I accidentally included any multiplats



Alien syndrome
Arc rise fantasia
Barbie and the three musketeers
Batman brave and the bold
Batallion wars 2
Battle ship, this was multi plat but the wii version was a strategy game where the other consoles got an action game
Boom blox
The calling
Castlevania judgement
Conduit 1 and 2
Deadly creatures
Dead rising chop till you drop
Death jr 2
Dino strike
Epic Mickey
Escape from bug island
Excitebots
Excitetruck
Fire emblem radiant dawn
Fragile dreams
Gormiti
Guilty party
Gunslinger
Juon the grudge
Kirby return to dreamland
Kore gang
Last story
Legend of zelda skyward sword
Let's tap
Links crossbow training
Little kings story
Lost in Shadow
Madworld
Marble mania and saga
Martian panic
Metroid other m
Metroid prime trilogy
Munchables

Thats all I have time for now, ill try and list .more later

Re: Best exclusives per console still?

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:16 pm
by prfsnl_gmr
pook99 wrote:Alien syndrome
Arc rise fantasia
Barbie and the three musketeers
Batman brave and the bold
Batallion wars 2
Battle ship, this was multi plat but the wii version was a strategy game where the other consoles got an action game
Boom blox
The calling
Castlevania judgement
Conduit 1 and 2
Deadly creatures
Dead rising chop till you drop
Death jr 2
Dino strike
Epic Mickey
Escape from bug island
Excitebots
Excitetruck
Fire emblem radiant dawn
Fragile dreams
Gormiti
Guilty party
Gunslinger
Juon the grudge
Kirby return to dreamland
Kore gang
Last story
Legend of zelda skyward sword
Let's tap
Links crossbow training
Little kings story
Lost in Shadow
Madworld
Marble mania and saga
Martian panic
Metroid other m
Metroid prime trilogy

Munchables


Gauntlet thrown! The Wii has a ton of great exclusives, especially if you count WiiWare titles. I did strike through a few, however, because they are available on the Wii U eShop. Once you finish going through your collection, I’ll add some to complete the list.

EDIT: For those of you who don’t know...Barbie and the Three Musketeers is awesome, and you should definitely play it, I had to strike it here, however, because the Wii version (unlike Batman: The Brave & The Bold) is substantially the same as the NDS version. I a
So had to strike Little Kong’s Story since it was ported to the Vita and PC. Alien Syndrome and Death Jr. II were released for the PSP, and, to my surprise, The Conduit was ported to Android!