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Re: Save States

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:09 am
by PartridgeSenpai
pook99 wrote:4) I also use them to answer childhood questions. Like for example, I have beaten double dragon 1 on nes about a million times in my life but to this day always feel like I just get lucky on the wall with the extending bricks. So one day I got to the wall, save stated it, and just tried to figure out a pattern, I still don't know the pattern, but I will use save states to figure out stuff like that.


That's a really good point I'd totally forgot about. I do that all the time playing retro RPGs when I'm given some kind of choice that seeeems like it might be meaningful but might not actually be. It gives me a sure-fire way to test, via exactly the same setups, to see if that choice has meaningful consequences (if any), or if its an illusion of choice.

Re: Save States

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:42 pm
by prfsnl_gmr
Great conversation.

I use save states from time-to-time:

(1) I sometimes use them on games with really long, cumbersome passwords, like Faxanadu.

(2) I use them on really long games that should have passwords or a save feature, but don’t, such as Blaster Master, Rygar, etc. St this point in my life, I just don’t have the time to get through a game like that in one sitting.

(3) I use them as a redundant back up/save feature in some longer games. (Nothing says “fun” like losing level grinding in PSIII because you didn’t quit out of the game the right way on the PSP Sega Genesis Collection...)

(4) Very rarely, I will use them for “content tourism” purposes. There are some bad, difficult games that I’d like to beat, but their generally broken nature means beating them legitimately is going to take a really long time and be a miserable experience. I will use save states to get through those, and when I do that, I indicate that I’ve done so in the “games beaten” thread.

Re: Save States

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:46 pm
by BoneSnapDeez
^ Literally what I do as well. You love to see it.

Re: Save States

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:27 pm
by pook99
prfsnl_gmr wrote:Great conversation.

I use save states from time-to-time:

(1) I sometimes use them on games with really long, cumbersome passwords, like Faxanadu.

(2) I use them on really long games that should have passwords or a save feature, but don’t, such as Blaster Master, Rygar, etc. St this point in my life, I just don’t have the time to get through a game like that in one sitting.
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1. do you use them on games with short passwords as well? I'm at the point where I just refuse to write down passwords so even games with 4 character passwords I will use save states on.

2. So many good examples of this, definitely agree on Blaster Master and Rygar, some other notable titles I would add
-Bionic Commando
-Adv island 1-3
-Mario 1-3 (if playing without warps)
-ghosts n goblins (and respectively the SNES and genesis versions)

I'm sure there are tons more that I'm not thinking about right now, its amazing how many old nes games expected you to sit for hours and just play through these games in one sitting.

Re: Save States

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:49 pm
by prfsnl_gmr
pook99 wrote:1. do you use them on games with short passwords as well? I'm at the point where I just refuse to write down passwords so even games with 4 character passwords I will use save states on.


I don’t really use them for short passwords. I am more likely to write those down or just look them up online. Occasionally, for both long and short passwords, I take a picture with my phone and, when I restart the game, enter the password from the picture. New technology helping me beat old games!

Re: Save States

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:23 pm
by pook99
prfsnl_gmr wrote:
pook99 wrote:1. do you use them on games with short passwords as well? I'm at the point where I just refuse to write down passwords so even games with 4 character passwords I will use save states on.


I don’t really use them for short passwords. I am more likely to write those down or just look them up online. Occasionally, for both long and short passwords, I take a picture with my phone and, when I restart the game, enter the password from the picture. New technology helping me beat old games!


I've done that a small handful of times, I also use my phone to take screenshots of hints and in game passwords when I'm playing more obtuse old games.

Re: Save States

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:32 pm
by pierrot
I never use save states. It feels wrong to me. However, I do take photos of password screens all the time. I'm all about that.