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Re: Rate the series - Double Dragon

by pook99 Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:39 am

@prfsnl_gamer: I think you got all the games covered, if you ever play the master system version I would love to hear your thoughts on it, it is a game that garners a lot of positive vibes but I absolutely hated it.

Next Series: 2d Sonic

I am going to personally sit out on this one, truth be told, I do not like Sonic at all, most of his games are mediocre at best, I feel it is hands down the most over rated series of all time, and I roll my eyes everytime he is seriously compared to Mario. For me the game is built on a contradiction, you are supposed to be able to move fast, but everytime you do, you run facefirst into a spike or another enemy. Sure you can memorize the levels but what fun is that?

Having said all that, I recognize that he is iconic and people do tend to love his games, so I am going to let everyone else rate this series and gush over how great sonic is. The games up for rating are (and of course feel free to add games I will inevitably miss)

Sonic 1-3 (genesis)
Sonic CD (sega cd)
Sonic and Knuckles (genesis)
Sonic 1 and 2 (master system)
Sonic Mania
Sonic Generations (I know its half 3d)
Probably a shitty game gear sonic game I am missing

Anything else?

I will say I have played all of the above games except sonic cd and sonic and knuckles. The only games I enjoyed were sonic 2 and sonic generations. Generations is hands down the best sonic game I have ever played, and I definitely did not play Mania enough to make a judgement but I know everyone seems to love that game.

Also in continuing the tradition of including a spiritual successor feel free to add freedom planet into the mix if you have played that. Freedom Planet is amazing and is what sonic should have been in the first place, if it was a sonic game it would defintiely be the best one.
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Re: Rate the series - 2d sonic games

by Gunstar Green Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:04 pm

Not including the GBA games which I haven't really spent significant time with...

1. Sonic 3 & Knuckles
2. Sonic Mania
2. Sonic 2
3. Sonic 1 Master System
4. Sonic 1
5. Sonic 3D Blast
6. Sonic 2 Master System
7. Sonic CD
8. Sonic Triple Trouble
9. Sonic Chaos
1000. Sonic Blast Game Gear/Master System
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Re: Rate the series - 2d sonic games

by samsonlonghair Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:08 pm

This is the series I have spent the most time playing.

1. Sonic & Knuckles - with or without the Lock-on cartridges
2. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (Genesis)
3. Sonic the Hedgehog (Genesis)
4. Sonic the Hedgehog 3
5. Sonic CD
6. Sonic Rush
7. Sonic Advance 2
8. SegaSonic the Hedgehog (Arcade)
9. Sonic Advance
10. Sonic Chaos
11. Sonic Spinball
12. Sonic Triple Trouble
13. Sonic Colors (DS)
14. Knuckles Chaotix
15. Sonic Advance 3
16. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (Game Gear)
17. Sonic the Hedgehog (Game Gear)
18. Tails Adventure
19. Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episodes I & II
20. Sonic Blast (Game Gear)
21. Sonic the Hedgehog Gameworld (Pico)

I'm not sure where I would put Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine. I actually like the Puyo games a lot, but it has nothing to do with the Sonic series, so there's no way to compare them.

I haven't played Sonic Mania yet, simply because I don't own a machine that I can play it on.
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Re: Rate the series - 2d sonic games

by PresidentLeever Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:19 pm

Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (& Knuckles) (Genesis)
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles
Sonic Mania
Sonic & Knuckles
Sonic the Hedgehog (Genesis) or Luv da Flo or Sonic Classic Heroes or Tails in Sonic 1
Sonic 3
Sonic the Hedgehog (SMS/Game Gear)
Sonic Advance
Sonic Triple Trouble
Metal Sonic Hyperdrive if that counts
Sonic Colors' 2D parts
Sonic Chaos
Sonic Advance 2
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (SMS/Game Gear)
Sonic CD
Sonic 3D Blast - Director's cut hack
Sonic Spinball
Knuckles Chaotix
Sonic Blast (Game Gear)

Still need to play SA3 and Rush... & Knuckles.
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Re: Rate the series - 2d sonic games

by samsonlonghair Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:36 pm

PresidentLeever wrote:Sonic Colors' 2D parts

YES!
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Re: Rate the series - 2d sonic games

by pierrot Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:29 pm

This is actually kind of tough. I feel the quality of most of the 2D Sonic games is pretty even between titles, and a number of games (like the Game Gear games) I haven't played in a long time. I consider Sonic & Knuckles, and Sonic the Hedgehog 3 to just be one game, at this point, though. Also, I can't really list the home console versions of Sonic Colors, or Sonic Generations here. It just doesn't seem right.


  1. Sonic 3 & Knuckles
  2. Sonic CD
  3. Sonic Rush
  4. Sonic Chaos
  5. Freedom Planet
  6. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (Genesis)
  7. Sonic the Hedgehog (Genesis)
  8. Knuckles Chaotix
  9. Sonic the Hedgehog (Game Gear)
  10. Sonic Advance 2
  11. Sonic Advance
  12. Sonic Blast
  13. Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode I

I beat Sonic Advance 1 and 2 in the past, but I barely remember them, so I just put them near the bottom, because they didn't leave much of an impression. Sonic Blast I also barely remember, although I remember really liking it as a kid. I just know that Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode I is kind of bad.

I have played a bit of Sonic Rush Adventure, and the DS version of Sonic Colors, too, but probably not enough to rank them along with the others. Neither of them did a whole lot for me, from what I played, though.
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Re: Rate the series - 2d sonic games

by prfsnl_gmr Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:58 pm

These are great lists! I don’t have much experience with this series, and have only beaten Sonic 2, Sonic CD, and Sonic. (That’s my ranking, BTW.) Apparently, I need to play Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles.
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Re: Rate the series - 2d sonic games

by Xeogred Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:17 pm

I still am not sure if I'm ready to crown Sonic Mania as the best, nostalgia for the older games makes that hard. But Mania blew my face off in 2017, I liked it more than Mario Odyssey for example. I've been thinking of finally replaying it soon to check out the Encore mode and extra characters. I can't think of a single issue with Mania, other than maybe wishing "X and Y levels" made the cut, but it's still a huge game compared to the rest. The "Best of" 2D Sonic.

1. Sonic CD
2. Sonic & Knuckles
3. Sonic 1
4. Sonic 2
5. Sonic 3
6. Sonic 3D Blast
7. Sonic Chaos
8. Sonic 1-2 SMS

If I could change one thing about CD, make the final boss way harder and add in another fight or two. I have a lot of nitpicks on Sonic 3 and that's why I rank it both lower and separately from S&K, but it's still a blast to play. In general, the 16bit main line Sonic games + CD, are some of my favorite games of all time.

Last weekend I put in about an hour worth on Sonic Colors and cleared two worlds. I think it's fine but I'm probably done with it, I've finally decided 3D Sonic is and never was for me. I didn't like Adventure 1-2 and while I beat Generations when it was new, I thought it was really overrated. Not something I want to play again. I also beat both episodes of Sonic 4, but they were really forgettable. I think I've played some of the GBA/DS games, but they didn't leave much of an impression. Like I said above... it's really the 16bit Sonic games that rock me.
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Re: Rate the series - 2d sonic games

by alienjesus Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:36 am

Whilst I certainly haven't played all of them, I have played enough 2D sonic games to actually make a list this time:

Sonic Mania
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (MD)
Sonic the Hedgehog (SMS)
Sonic the Hedgehog (MD)
Sonic Rush
Sonic & Knuckles
Sonic 3
Sonic Advance
Sonic Advance 3
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (SMS)
Sonic Pocket Adventure
Sonic Chaos
Knuckles Chaotix
Sonic Advance 2

I havent quite played enough of Sonic Rush Adventure to rate it, but from what I've seen it would probably go somewhere around where Sonic Advance 1 and 3 are on the list. I haven't played any of the Game Gear exclusives, Sonic CD, Sonic 4, or the portable version of Sonic Colours.

Sonic 2 and Sonic SMS are probably my 2 absolute favourite Sonic games, but it would be nostalgia talking if I rated them above Mania - that game is so inventive and is probably the best in the whole series.
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Re: Rate the series - 2d sonic games

by PresidentLeever Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:08 am

Only things keeping Mania from the top for me are 1. it felt more like a best of CD than a new entry. S3&K has a decent story told through the environments and transitions, which Mania kind of tries to do but half-asses and uses time travel as an excuse to make you go through previous zones instead. 2. The zones don't strike as good of a balance between exploration and speed as S2's or S3&K's do, overall.
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