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Re: Racketboy forums’ Summer Games Challenge 2019

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 11:19 am
by pook99
@Ack: I havent played most of those games, I could tell you that FEAR 2 and Jedi Academy were both awesome games and should 100% be added to your list.

Re: Racketboy forums’ Summer Games Challenge 2019

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 11:19 am
by MrPopo
Ack wrote:I want to see what you come up with.

Here's my selections for you Ack:

Descent 3 + Mercenary
HeXen II
Magic Carpet
Men of Valor
Rise of the Triad
SiN Gold
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
Strife
Thief II: The Metal Age
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines

I went back and forth on Jedi Academy vs. Republic Commando for the Star Wars game, and frankly JA is better, even though it's more third person lightsaber (there's one optional level where you have to use guns). I cut FEAR 2 because I always felt that the gameplay in it was not nearly as good as FEAR 1 and the non-canon expansion packs.

Re: Racketboy forums’ Summer Games Challenge 2019

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 7:24 pm
by Czernobog
I'm hoping to actually get through one of these challenges this summer at long last. Luckily, I have a 3 games already completed this month:

1. Super Metroid - COMPLETED
2. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - COMPLETED
3. Super Castlevania IV - COMPLETED
4. Sonic & Knuckles
5. Castlevania Bloodlines
6. Knuckles Chaotix
7. Saga Frontier
8. Beyond Oasis
9. Phantasy Star IV
10. Sonic CD

First three games completed:

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There's not much to say about these games that hasn't been said many times before, and I was not surprised in the least that I enjoyed the hell out of them. What did surprise me was that each one of them is among the best games I have ever played, and I would consider each to be the pinnacle of their respective franchises. I also had no idea Super Castlevania IV had a harder mode after completion and found myself wanting to keep on going, but decideded to move on to other games in the list. Now to move on to some Sega classics. :D

Re: Racketboy forums’ Summer Games Challenge 2019

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 10:17 pm
by prfsnl_gmr
“The Master Sword sleeps again...FOREVER!”

True to its word, Nintendo never made another Legend of Zelda game. :lol:

Also, Simon’s short shorts are really showing off some leg there!

Re: Racketboy forums’ Summer Games Challenge 2019

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 12:08 am
by marurun
Real Men something something Shorts!

Re: Racketboy forums’ Summer Games Challenge 2019

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 4:30 am
by alienjesus
Now I'm back home I can finally respond in detail to things in the thread! Hooray!

pook99 wrote:Here is a list of 20 games I have been meaning to play, I'm the kind of person who needs options so I won't try and narrow it down to 10, but I will try and play 10 of them by the end of the summer, I am also likely to add games to the list as I think of them.


From your list, I'd definitely try and focus on these ones as the most classic titles

1. Super Mario RPG (even if I dislike it, it's definitely regarded as a classic!)
2. Thunderforce 3/4
3. Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance
4. Metroid Fusion
5. Luigi's Mansion
6. Resident Evil Code Veronica
7. Zelda: Twilight Princess

prfsnl_gmr wrote:AJ...swap out Wii Sports Resort and New Zealamd Story for Pilotwngs and Layer Section.

I'm quite commited to both of those games I think, so I'm not sure whether I'll do this. I am tempted by Pilotwings but if I were to replace a game it'd probably be either ActRaiser or one of the RPGs. I might add Pilotwing as a substitution if I think I'm short on time maybe?

prfsnl_gmr wrote:Now...Help me choose!


OK! I think these ones are good:

Burgertime (Arcade)
Sinistar (Arcade)
Zaxxon (Arcade)
Crazy Taxi (DC)
Jet Grind Radio (DC)
Herzog Zwei (Genesis)
Thunder Force III (Genesis)
1080 (N64)
F-Zero X (N64)
Perfect Dark (N64)
Wave Race 64 (N64)
Earthbound Beginnings/Mother (NES/Wii U)
Tecmo Super Bowl (NES)
Final Fantasy Tactics (iOS/PSX)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee (PSX)
Silent Hill (PSX)
Ratchet & Clank (PS2)
Resident Evil: Code Veronica X (PS3)
Blazing Lazers (TG16)
Gate of Thunder (TG16)
Lords of Thunder (TG16)
Ninja Spirits (TG16)
Legendary Axe (TG16)


If I was to choose you 10, I'd go with:

1. Zaxxon (only 1 arcade classic I think)
2. Jet Set Radio - iconic game on the system.
3. Herzog Zwei - classic strategy. I actually own this and haven't played it yet either.
4. F-Zero X/Wave Race 64/1080 - only 1 N64 racer needed, but you have lots of good choices. F Zero would be my choice for best of the three.
5. Perfect Dark - defining console FPS.
6. Silent Hill/Code Veronica - Silent Hill is more classic, but Pook might play Code Veronica so it's more fun to play alongside someone
7. Blazing Lazers/Lord of Thunder/Gate of Thunder - Take your pick, they're all great and not too hard as far as shmups go. I haven't beaten Gate of Thunder yet, but I've finished the others. My favourite is Lords, but the easiest is Blazing Lazers and it's still great.
8. OddWorld Abes Oddysey - Pretty iconic cinematic platformer, and it's better than Prince of Persia imo.
9. Ratchet and Clank - A nice easy breezy platformer of sorts? I noticed there's no platformers on the list and it made it feel empty to me :P
10. Earthbound Beginnings/Final Fantasy Tactics - for an RPG. Earthbound is shorter but quite grindy and challenging towards the end.

pook99 wrote:@alienjesus:

1) Goldeneye is pretty trashy when you take away the nostalgia, I have zero nostalgia for that game, played through it last year and it was miserable on every level. If you don't have fond memories of the game as a youth, I would avoid it altogether.

2) Actraiser is amazing, definitely play that, one of the best soundtracks on the system and just an overall great and unique game, easily in my top 5 snes games of all time

3) I should add New Zealand story to my list, have heard great things about it but meaning to play it forever.

4) Avoid the legendary axe...or play it with save states. The game itself is actually very good, but it has the most enraging last level of all time. It is a labyrinth type level with a room for literally every letter of the alphabet, it is long, tedious, boring, and difficult, because of the last level I have no desire to ever play legendary axe ever again, liberal use of save states makes it easier, but it is still a long and boring slog.

5) Rayman, I never actually played the original, maybe I should put it on my maybe list as well, I've heard good things.


GoldenEye I don't have a huge amount of nostalgia for, but I'm on a mission to beat every RareWare game for the N64 and it's one of my 2 remaining games. It's also probably the most classic game on my list, so I'm gonna keep it there and muddle through.

ActRaiser is probably the least classic game on my list, but I want to play it and it's also unfinished business from last year. I think I can get away with sneaking one 'maybe not quite a classic' game in per year.

New Zealand Story is good but hard. I'm not sure what the best port is, but I suspect it's not the SMS port I'll be playing which has very limited lives and continues.

Legendary Axe seems tough which is why I didn't go for it as a primary option.

I'd avoid Rayman. It's on my list because it's super well regarded, but I thought it was incredibly cheap when I played it for TR a few (many) years back

Ack wrote:Where to begin...

Castlevania: Circle of the Moon is a classic of the GBA. In fact, it's the reason I bought one. I highly, highly recommend playing it, both as a great GBA game and the one that started a run of handheld Metroidvanias in the series.

I'd say ActRaiser is great, but it's debatable as a classic. My opinion, throw in Pilotwings. I'm not sure on which Fire Emblem you should go for, but it's a classic series.


Cool, I'll go with the GBA Castlevania then :)

See above for ActRaiser reasoning, it's probably the game I'm most looking forward to on the list. You and prfsnl both agree on Pilotwings, so I'll consider subbing it in for something else. Let me consider...

Fire Emblem I think I'm going to go with 4 (Seisen No Keifu/Genealogy of the Holy War) as it appears to be a fan favourite and highly regarded.


prfsnl_gmr wrote:OK...Here’s a list:

1. Bahamut Lagoon (SFC) (June TR)
2. TBD (July TR)
3. TBD (August TR)
4. Herzog Zwei (Genesis)
5. Medal of Honor (PSX)
6. M.U.L.E. (NES)
7. Phantasy Star III (Genesis)
8. Silent Hill (PSX)
9. Tecmo Bowl (NES)
10. Zaxxon (Arcade)

I took out 1080 and RE:CVX to diversify genres, opting for Silent Hill and Tecmo Bowl for horror and sports, respectively. (Also, I think I’d like to beat RE3 before moving on to RE:CVX.) I added PSIII because I’m itching for a JRPG right now.


Fair enough on Silent Hill over Resi, and Medal of Honour is fair enough over Perfect Dark for an FPS.

Personally I think F-Zero or one of the other N64 racing games should be a must play. People always seem to forget that Racing games were somehow a defining genre of N64, it had an amazing selection - Mario Kart, Diddy Kong Racing, Beetle Adventure Racing, Wave Race, 1080, Cruis'n, Xtreme G, F-zero, Wipeout, the list goes on. I think F-Zero X is a contender for best on the system, and best in the series, but it's close between that and the Gamecube sequel, which I just prefer.

Ack wrote:Ok, I'm going through my list of available FPS.

Here is what I have available that is 10 years or older. Try to build me a list from it if you can, sticking to only one entry per series:


I am probably not the man to choose these as it's really not my genre, but working on the principle that if I've heard of it it's probably somewhat of a classic, I'm going with these:

1. Doom 3 (this is the BFG Edition version, which released in 2012)
2. F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin
3. Far Cry 2
4. HeXen: Deathkings of the Dark Citadel
5. Killing Time
6. Magic Carpet
7. Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
8. Thief II: The Metal Age
9. Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six
10. Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines

This is probably a terrible list.

Czernobog wrote:I'm hoping to actually get through one of these challenges this summer at long last. Luckily, I have a 3 games already completed this month:

1. Super Metroid - COMPLETED
2. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - COMPLETED
3. Super Castlevania IV - COMPLETED
4. Sonic & Knuckles
5. Castlevania Bloodlines
6. Knuckles Chaotix
7. Saga Frontier
8. Beyond Oasis
9. Phantasy Star IV
10. Sonic CD

There's not much to say about these games that hasn't been said many times before, and I was not surprised in the least that I enjoyed the hell out of them. What did surprise me was that each one of them is among the best games I have ever played, and I would consider each to be the pinnacle of their respective franchises. I also had no idea Super Castlevania IV had a harder mode after completion and found myself wanting to keep on going, but decideded to move on to other games in the list. Now to move on to some Sega classics. :D


Oh man, this is quite a list. The fact that the first 3 you played were those 3 is amazing. I actually wish I still had such iconic games I could include on my list - 10 years of participating in this challenge has made it harder to find good options for sure :lol:

That's a lot of Sonic games - are you a fan who wants to try a few he's not played before, or are you newer to the franchise?

I don't think I've heard of Saga Frontier though?

prfsnl_gmr wrote:“The Master Sword sleeps again...FOREVER!”

True to its word, Nintendo never made another Legend of Zelda game. :lol:

Also, Simon’s short shorts are really showing off some leg there!


The randomiser for A Link To The Past changes some of those ending messages to match item locations. Because the master sword pedestal gave me a fairy in a bottle instead of the master sword, my message said 'The Fairy Friend sleeps again....forever' which sounded very morbid.

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Re: Racketboy forums’ Summer Games Challenge 2019

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 11:48 am
by pierrot
pook99 wrote:4. Pulseman (genesis)
7. popful mail (sega cd)
11. umjammer lammy (ps1)
17. Ill Bleed (dreamcast)

These games are all excellent, and you should absolutely play them sometime, but they aren't quite classics, unfortunately.

pook99 wrote:3. Super Mario RPG (snes)
5. thunderforce 3 or 4 (genesis)
15. Luigis Mansion (gamecube)
18. Resident evil code veronica (ps2 or dreamcast)

These are all great games, that I would personally say should be in your list for the summer. Luigi's Mansion feels a little bit borderline, but I really enjoyed that game. I played Super Mario RPG for the first time earlier this year, and while I didn't like Paper Mario at all, SMRPG was pretty undeniably great. For Code Veronica, play the Dreamcast version. Even better would be the JP only rerelease "Kanzenban" (CVX in the west) on the Dreamcast, but I don't know if there are any translation patches for it at all. Although, the dialogue is still technically in English.

pook99 wrote:19. Zelda: twilight Princess (gamecube)

I know it seems crazy, given the brand, but I'd almost be hesitant to call this a classic. I'm also not sure I'd even recommend it unless you just had to play all of the Zelda games on console, or something. It's not a bad game, though.

pook99 wrote:16. Billy Hatcher and the giant egg (gamecube)

However, this one is a bad game. It's not a classic, and I would highly recommend avoiding it. Billy Hatcher was a game I rented when it was new, and it always kind of stuck with me, so I was excited to finally play it a number of years ago. It starts out all right, but it becomes a heinous bitch by the latter part of the game. I stopped playing for a long time (maybe a couple years) at the desert levels, because there was this stupid jump that seems almost impossible to clear. I eventually made it to the end of the game, when I finally came back to it, but there are all kinds of extra optional stages, that I just avoided. It just plays like trash. It has a lot of cool ideas, but the controls are terrible, and trying to roll eggs onto the 'roller coaster' tracks will very often just send you to your death, right off the edge of the platform. It's indefensible garbage, I say!


alienjesus wrote:
pook99 wrote:@alienjesus:

4) Avoid the legendary axe...or play it with save states. The game itself is actually very good, but it has the most enraging last level of all time. It is a labyrinth type level with a room for literally every letter of the alphabet, it is long, tedious, boring, and difficult, because of the last level I have no desire to ever play legendary axe ever again, liberal use of save states makes it easier, but it is still a long and boring slog.


Legendary Axe seems tough which is why I didn't go for it as a primary option.

I beat Legendary Axe around the end of last year, legit, on real hardware, and it was kind of a nightmare. Jumps always kind of feel like an adventure, in and of themselves, and the enemies in the last couple levels are some silly-ass meat sponges that pretty much won't die without a fully powered axe swing. Sometimes even more than one. Some of their patterns, like the stage 3 boss that becomes a normal enemy, are also stupid. Then after everything else, there's the final boss, who just sucks. I'm not even entirely sure how I managed to get lucky enough to beat the game, but I'm with pook here, I'll probably never play Legendary Axe again. I actually sold all four of the TG-16 games I had (Legendary Axe, Legendary Axe II, Ninja Spirit and Alien Crush) after beating them all around the same time. It's fun to play for a while if you never intend to try to beat it, though.



alienjesus wrote:
Czernobog wrote:I'm hoping to actually get through one of these challenges this summer at long last. Luckily, I have a 3 games already completed this month:

1. Super Metroid - COMPLETED
2. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - COMPLETED
3. Super Castlevania IV - COMPLETED
4. Sonic & Knuckles
5. Castlevania Bloodlines
6. Knuckles Chaotix
7. Saga Frontier
8. Beyond Oasis
9. Phantasy Star IV
10. Sonic CD

There's not much to say about these games that hasn't been said many times before, and I was not surprised in the least that I enjoyed the hell out of them. What did surprise me was that each one of them is among the best games I have ever played, and I would consider each to be the pinnacle of their respective franchises. I also had no idea Super Castlevania IV had a harder mode after completion and found myself wanting to keep on going, but decideded to move on to other games in the list. Now to move on to some Sega classics. :D


Oh man, this is quite a list. The fact that the first 3 you played were those 3 is amazing. I actually wish I still had such iconic games I could include on my list - 10 years of participating in this challenge has made it harder to find good options for sure :lol:

Yeah, I was surprised to see all three of those SNES games at the top. It was only a few years ago that I hadn't played through Super Metroid, either, but all three? Amazing.

Can't say I agree about Super CV IV, though. That's my least favorite Castlevania game.

alienjesus wrote:I don't think I've heard of Saga Frontier though?

It's one of the two SaGa games on the PS1. Wasn't released in Europe though, it seems.



I'm getting a bit more limited in options these days, and with a bit less time, I'm not likely going to waver much from my usual commitment to play through a lot of lesser known games. I'm going to at least start a list of some games I could potentially see myself getting to this summer, and if something else pops into my regular gaming routine, I'll add it to the list, appropriately. Yeah, it's a bit of a cop out, but I would probably be a non-participant, otherwise. Here's what I'm sort of feeling:

1. Zelda II: The Adventure of Link (NES) - Could this double as a TR game for May?
2. Thunder Force IV (Saturn) - I doubt I'll actually see the end of this game, but maybe I'll give it another shot. I've only ever made it to Stage 8 before.
3. Sorcerian (MD) - Dragon Slayer V. Need to continue on my mission to beat all the Dragon Slayer games (not including Romancia, because fuck that game), and I'm not ready to go back to Xanadu yet. Other than Xanadu and Sorcerian, I basically only have Lord Monarch left.
4. Actraiser (SFC) - Played a fair amount of this a number of years ago, but didn't really like it, so I shelved it, but I've been thinking about giving it another shot for a while.
5. Torneko no Daibouken (SFC) - The first game in the longstanding Mystery Dungeon series. Not all that well known outside of Japan, though.

Was thinking of adding Vermillion (Sword of Vermillion), but doesn't really feel like a classic, even though it's always on the Genesis Classics collections.

Re: Racketboy forums’ Summer Games Challenge 2019

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 12:28 pm
by marurun
Legendary Axe is a legit great game, but it demands a very specific style of play. I happen to love it.

Re: Racketboy forums’ Summer Games Challenge 2019

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 5:59 pm
by prfsnl_gmr
Zelda II absolutely is. It a May TR game! :evil: It is one of the very best games in the series, and I absolutely love it.

Also...beat Actraiser. It’s pretty great.

Re: Racketboy forums’ Summer Games Challenge 2019

Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 10:27 pm
by Ack
Well, both Popo and aj had some thoughts for my list. Here's where the two overlapped:

Magic Carpet
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
Thief II: The Metal Age
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines

Popo suggested these:
Descent 3 + Mercenary
HeXen II
Men of Valor
Rise of the Triad
SiN Gold
Strife


aj suggested these:
Doom 3
F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin
Far Cry 2
HeXen: Deathkings of the Dark Citadel
Killing Time
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six


Anybody else want to take a crack at putting a list together for me? Here's the set to choose from:

Blake Stone: Aliens of Gold
Blake Stone: Planet Strike
Crysis Warhead
Descent 3 + Mercenary
Deus
Doom 3
F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin
Far Cry 2
Firestarter
HeXen: Deathkings of the Dark Citadel
HeXen II
I.G.I.-2: Covert Strike
Killing Time
Kingpin: Life of Crime
Magic Carpet
Magic Carpet 2
Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault
Men of Valor
NecroVisioN
Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath
Painkiller: Overdose
Pathologic
Redline
Redneck Rampage
Rise of the Triad
Robinson's Requiem
SiN Gold
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
Star Wars: Republic Commando
Strife
SWAT 3
Thief II: The Metal Age
TimeShift
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six
Ultima Underworld 2
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
Venom. Codename: Outbreak