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Re: Games Beaten 2018

by pook99 Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:19 pm

How do Donkey Kong country returns and tropical freeze compare to the original DKC trilogy?
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Re: Games Beaten 2018

by BoneSnapDeez Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:35 pm

I started Donkey Kong Country 3. My first hour with it has been more enjoyable than my first hour with Donkey Kong Country 2.

pook99 wrote:How do Donkey Kong country returns and tropical freeze compare to the original DKC trilogy?


Those games are stinkers. Returns has some awful gimmicky Wii waggle controls that ruin the whole experience. The game is likely better on 3DS but I haven't played that version yet.

Tropical Freeze I never finished, though I played a few hours. The controls are back to "normal" but are still terrible. The Kongs feel heavy and bloated and are just a mess to maneuver. Bad times.

I'd rather play the original Donkey Kong on ColecoVision than either one of those games.
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Re: Games Beaten 2018

by prfsnl_gmr Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:58 pm

First 50
1. Bastion (iOS)
2. LaserCat (360)
3. Zombie Incident (3DS)
4. Bye-Bye BoxBoy! (3DS)
5. Monument Valley 2 (iOS)
6. Zenge (iOS)
7. Master of Darkness (Game Gear/3DS)
8. Wonder Boy (SMS)
9. Full Throttle Remastered (iOS)
10. Adventure Island (NES)
11. Adventure Island II (NES)
12. Adventure Island (GB)
13. Super Adventure Island (SNES)
14. New Adventure Island (TG16)
15. Adventure Island III (NES)
16. The Legend of the Ghost Lion (NES)
17. Part Time UFO (iOS)
18. Adventure Island II: Aliens in Paradise (GB)
19. Adventure Island IV (NES)
20. Super Adventure Island II (SNES)
21. Adventure Island: The Beginning (WII)
22. Quell Memento (3DS)
23. Wonder Boy in Monster Land (ARCADE)
24. Saiyuuki World (FAMICOM)
25. Whomp ‘Em (NES)
26. Bikkuriman World (TG16)
27. Wonder Boy III: Monster Lair (TG16)
28. Go Series: Picdun (DS)
29. The Keep (3DS)
30. Dooors (3DS)
31. Ninja Gaiden (ARCADE)
32. Advance Guardian Heroes (GBA)
33. TMNT (GBA)
34. Double Dragon Advance (GBA)
35. Mighty Final Fight (NES)
36. Double Dragon II (ARCADE)
37. Kung Fu Master (GB)
38. Cube Escape: The Lake (iOS)
39. Cube Escape: Seasons (iOS)
40. Cube Escape: Arles (iOS)
41 . Cube Escape: Harvey’s Box (iOS)
42. Cube Escape: Case 23 (iOS)
43. Cube Escape: The Mill (iOS)
44. Rusty Lake Hotel (iOS)
45. Cube Escape: Birthday (iOS)
46. Cube Escape: The Theatre (iOS)
47. Rusty Lake Roots (iOS)
48. Cube Escape: The Cave (iOS)
49. Rusty Lake Paradise (iOS)
50. Double Dragon 3: The Rosetta Stone (ARCADE)

51. Knightmare Tower (iOS)
52. 80s Overdrive (3DS)
53. Hitman Go (iOS)

Hitman Go is hard to explain in text. It is, basically, a series of logic puzzles...that looks like a board game version of Square Enix’s Popular Hitman series. In it, you move an Agent 47 board game piece across a board, avoiding hazards and, occasionally, taking other pieces. Each stage has various goals, such as completion under a certain number of moves, obtaining a briefcase, or taking all of the other pieces on the board. You unlock new levels by completing stages and accomplishing these goals, which are sometimes mutually exclusive (I.e., on some levels, it is impossible to complete all of the goals in one run).

Hitman Go is fun and occasionally challenging. It also looks really neat. I am not sure I enjoyed it as much as Lara Croft Go, which I played through last year, but I did enjoy it. It also inspired me to start playing through the last game in the series, Deus Ex Go (which, so far, isn’t as good as Hitman Go or Lara Croft Go). Once I wrap it up, which I expect to do soon, I will have that series under my belt (and a lot more storage space on my iPad too...Those games are big!).
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Re: Games Beaten 2018

by Xeogred Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:17 pm

pook99 wrote:How do Donkey Kong country returns and tropical freeze compare to the original DKC trilogy?

I love them. lol, your mileage will vary I guess with how hit or miss they seem to be.
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Re: Games Beaten 2018

by pook99 Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:00 pm

230. Golden axe 2(genesis)
231. Double Dragon Gold (openbor)
232. Bare knuckle 3 yesterday once more (openbor)
233. Super Mario Lost Levels (snes)

Mario Lost Levels has been a game that I have been meaning to play forever and I decided to put it on my summer games list to motivate myself to play it.

First things first, after finally playing through the game I could say for sure that I am very happy that we got our version of super mario 2 rather than the lost levels. US Super Mario 2 is an amazing game, and I would love to see a more modern version of a mario game set in the dream universe with throwable vegetables and wart instead of Bowser. We got Mario 2 in a time when companies were not afraid to completely change up its sequels and much like zelda 2, and castlevania 2, Mario 2 was radically different than its predecessor. As a kid, I loved the universe that Mario 2 presented us with, I loved the bright colorful graphics, the new world, enemies, vegetables, and all the other cool stuff that came with that game. If we got lost levels as a kid, I definitely would have been disappointed.

Thats not to say lost levels is a bad game, in fact quite the opposite, I really enjoyed lost levels, and I would even go as far to say that I enjoyed it more than the original super mario bros. I played the snes version so it is slightly easier than the nes version since you have unlimited continues and you could save your progress every level. These features make the experience much more enjoyable than it would have been if we got the game on the nes. I honestly could not imagine beating the game in one sitting, nor could I imagine having the patience to replay some of the more annoying levels repeatedly to progress in the game.

Having said all that, I enjoy difficult games, and I enjoyed the challenge that this game presents. There are some annoying features, most notably the lack of power ups, mushrooms are nearly impossible to come by which means you will play the vast majority of the game small and without the luxury of any safety net. The game also has an annoying habit of dropping a power up at a useless time or a time that is detrimental. For example, I found a hidden star on world 8-3, I was so excited, until I realized I needed to bounce off a turtle to make the jump right in front of the star and you cant do that while invincible. Stuff like that is super annoying and the game seems to really enjoy trolling the player.

I'm not sure quite how to rate the games difficulty in the grand scheme of gaming, it actually starts out pretty benign, I beat the first 4 worlds without continuing but then the difficulty ratchets up pretty steeply with world 7 and 8 being very frustrating filled with really tight jumps that require some parts memorization and a bit of trial and error. The last 2 levels were a nightmare and I beat the last level with literally 7 seconds left on the timer.

I'm glad I finally played this game, as an adult with a lifetime of gaming experience, I really appreciated the challenge and got a great feeling of satisfaction from beating each of the increasingly hard levels, it is a game I will probably revisit at some point, but there is no way this expansion pack would have captured my heart the way mario 2 did for me when I was 8 years old.



Xeogred wrote:
pook99 wrote:How do Donkey Kong country returns and tropical freeze compare to the original DKC trilogy?

I love them . lol, your mileage will vary I guess with how hit or miss they seem to be.


How do you think they stack up to the original trilogy?
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Re: Games Beaten 2018

by Xeogred Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:46 pm

pook99 wrote:
Xeogred wrote:
pook99 wrote:How do Donkey Kong country returns and tropical freeze compare to the original DKC trilogy?

I love them . lol, your mileage will vary I guess with how hit or miss they seem to be.


How do you think they stack up to the original trilogy?

I think they're close to the same level as DKC2-3 for me. The games are back to being simpler and less collectathon which I appreciate, still with some stuff you can get for the brutal hard extra levels or whatever. And you know what I love about DKC1? DK himself! So it's great that he's back and playable in these two. The difficulty is pretty high but totally fair and fun to me. The composer for Returns was Kenji Yamamoto and the OST even has some Metroid Prime-esque tones here and there, along with some great remixes of classic tracks and such. Returns doesn't have any underwater levels strangely, but it has a returning Factory world which I loved and a lot of levels in general. Tropical Freeze picks up the high difficulty but I think it was a little more forgiving. This one brings back David Wise, underwater levels, more playable Kong's which is neat, and though it has less levels overall I believe, the levels themselves were pretty dense and long. I'm not sure which one I prefer between these two, they both rock. I plan to get the 3DS version of Returns sometime and the Switch port of Tropical Freeze, so I'll replay them eventually.

I should also mention I'm generally not a fan of the 2.5D style visually, but I think these games look awesome. I have no complaints, I don't even like the Wii much but I don't recall anything about the waggle controls bugging me even if it wasn't ideal, it didn't stop me from enjoying Returns to the fullest.

Since you just conquered Lost Levels, I think you'd enjoy the challenge of Returns/Tropical Freeze.
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Re: Games Beaten 2018

by PartridgeSenpai Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:16 pm

Xeogred wrote:
pook99 wrote:How do Donkey Kong country returns and tropical freeze compare to the original DKC trilogy?

I love them. lol, your mileage will vary I guess with how hit or miss they seem to be.

I love them too~. I think they're fantastic games. They aren't exactly the same thing as the originals as far as the idea of their level designs go, but they're still excellent games totally worth picking up UwU
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Re: Games Beaten 2018

by Sarge Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:40 pm

I don't like the heft much at all. The SNES DKC games are much snappier, and I appreciate that.
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Re: Games Beaten 2018

by dunpeal2064 Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:40 am

The new DKC games take some adjusting, but the control of the character is far from bad. The new games require much more precise platforming (And are just way more difficult overall), and there was never a point where I felt that was hampered by the way the character controls. Its different, though, so I can see why it would be off putting.

They are divisive games, so all I can suggest for anyone curious about them is to just give them a try. But, fwiw, I enjoyed the games a lot, and Tropical Freeze is probably my favorite DKC game.
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Re: Games Beaten 2018

by BoneSnapDeez Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:05 pm

1. Antarctic Adventure (Famicom)
2. Nuts & Milk (Famicom)
3. Commando (Atari 2600)
4. Binary Land (Famicom)
5. Devil World (Famicom)
6. Disney's Aladdin (SNES)
7. Popeye (NES)
8. Super Mario Land (Game Boy)
9. Ys: The Vanished Omens (Sega Master System)
10 Ys II: Ancient Ys Vanished - The Final Chapter (Famicom)
11. Final Fantasy Mystic Quest (SNES)
12. Lunar: The Silver Star (Sega CD)
13. Otenba Becky no Daibouken (MSX)
14. Metroid (Famicom Disk System)
15. Mahou Kishi Rayearth (Game Boy)
16. Wabbit (Atari 2600)
17. Kirby's Dream Land (Game Boy)
18. Warpman (Famicom)
19. Final Fantasy (NES)
20. Transformers: Convoy no Nazo (Famicom)
21. Arcade Archives: Moon Patrol (Switch eShop)
22. Gremlins (Atari 2600)
23. Arcade Archives: Ninja-Kid (Switch eShop)
24. Shining in the Darkness (Genesis)
25. Johnny Turbo's Arcade: Gate of Doom (Switch eShop)
26. Front Line (Atari 2600)
27. Donkey Kong 3 (NES)
28. Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins (Game Boy)
29. Exerion (Famicom)
30. Johnny Turbo's Arcade: Bad Dudes (Switch eShop)
31. Arcade Archives: Double Dragon (Switch eShop)
32. ACA NeoGeo: Ninja Combat (Switch eShop)
33. Johnny Turbo's Arcade: Wizard Fire (Switch eShop)
34. Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land (Game Boy)
35. Virtual Boy Wario Land (Virtual Boy)
36. Grand Master (Famicom)
37. Johnny Turbo's Arcade: Sly Spy (Switch eShop)
38. ACA NeoGeo: Top Hunter Roddy & Cathy (Switch eShop)
39. ACA NeoGeo: Shock Troopers (Switch eShop)
40. Donkey Kong Country (SNES)
41. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (SNES)
42. Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! (SNES)

Just a quickie post. I don't have the energy to write long ass reviews anymore, especially for games "everyone" has already played.

So, I maintain that the original Donkey Kong Country is the best of the original trilogy by a huge margin. Cut from the same cloth as the strongest of Mario games, it offers up some solid mechanics and plenty of variety,

Donkey Kong Country 3 reminds me quite a bit of the second game. It's too big, too bloated, with a smattering of specific stages that are downright trollish and awful (seriously, that "poison" stage with the inverted controls can suck it). I actually enjoyed the first two worlds the best, as they were the most straightforward, tight, and consistent. There's an explorable world map, and plenty of collectibles, none of which are interesting or worthwhile. Graphically, this one's fantastic, with a velvety subdued color palette. I also like the subtle and ambient musical score.

I dunno, if I had to "score" this one I'd probably give it a 5/10 or 6/10 or so. It's not an "average" game, but a mechanically competent title that's buried under a bunch of really extraneous unfortunate design choices. I get the same vibes from this one that I get from something like Phantasy Star II.

I'm starting to think that, with the exception of the first installment, the DKC games just aren't for me.
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