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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by dsheinem Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:58 am

isiolia wrote:Personally, I actually played through Diablo III a couple times on PC, where the previous games I think I played for an hour or so and then put them aside. I didn't keep playing to actually hit the level cap or grind great gear or whatever, but I'd still count it as a good bit more appealing to me.


noise, if your wife would be interested, the console version is a great couch co-op game. Blizzard retooled it a bit for controllers and it actually works quite well.


Agreed. I beat D3 and its expansion on both PC (solo) and on PS4 (with my then-kindergartner). Both are fantastic.
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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by Exhuminator Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:22 am

dsheinem wrote:noise, if your wife would be interested, the console version is a great couch co-op game. Blizzard retooled it a bit for controllers and it actually works quite well.

I don't want to dampen the Diablo III enthusiasm parade here, but I'd like to add a counterpoint.

A few years back I bought Diablo III: Ultimate Evil Edition for 360, and attempted to play it couch co-op with my wife and daughter. It's true that controller input works great, and the couch co-op mode is serviceable. However, my daughter, my wife, and myself quickly became bored with Diablo III. We put ~four hours in it IIRC, all of us waiting for it to "click". At first we thought the game was uninteresting due to being too easy, so we slid the difficulty up to max. It didn't get any funner for us. All three of us found the game to be extremely repetitive, uninteresting from a plot perspective, lackluster in world/dungeon design, and combat was at once grindy and brain-dead. Since none of us were having any fun with it, we quit and moved on to something else.

Now everyone has their own personal tastes, and I'm not saying Diablo III is crap. I'm just saying I personally don't understand what's great about it. As for my little gaming group mentioned, we had a lot more fun playing Soma Bringer multiplayer, which is similar to Diablo, but we all found it far more entertaining.
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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by noiseredux Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:30 am

haha, so interestingly enough the Xbox One version of Diablo III had been my planned way of playing - but first I figured I'd try the free Starter Edition to see what I thought. Then when I finished that I was like "no fuck that, I have to keep playing right now!" so I just upgraded the PC version. But yeah I could totally see playing the console version with her. Especially since there's still the expansion stuff I haven't touched.

Right now our slow-op* game is Resident Evil: Revelations 2, though.

(*get it? It takes us forever to play through a game together. Trademark pending.)

@Exhum: for me personally, Diablo III just feels like comfort food. Sure the story is just kind of there. Sure the difficulty (at least at normal) is laughable. Sure you're in a cycle of kill swarms/upgrade gear/repeat. Sure the combat is basically just clicking on stuff. But oh goodness, if you have the right personality for it, it becomes this totally mindless yet steady stream of endorphin explosions that seem to trigger in tandem with the flash of lightning from leveling up. It's almost ineffable why the game is some compelling, I think. But if you have the right personality, it just works. I'd suspect you probably wouldn't like Phantasy Star Online or Destiny either.
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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by Exhuminator Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:37 am

noiseredux wrote:if you have the right personality for it, it becomes this totally mindless yet steady stream of endorphin explosions that seem to trigger in tandem with the flash of lightning from leveling up

I agree I wasn't the target demographic. (Apparently my wife and daughter weren't either.)

Like I said, I don't think Diablo III is a bad game. It just didn't entertain me at all personally. I'd rather play Icewind Dale, Soma Bringer, or Dark Alliance any day over it. They offer the same kind of dungeon exploring and endless killing and looting, but were much more entertaining for my taste.

I'm glad you and Dsh enjoy Diablo III though, don't get me wrong. More power to you guys.
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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by noiseredux Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:42 am

I get you, totally. There are definitely games that I've played and I'm like "well, I think it's great that people like this... but it's not for me." The Witcher 3 comes to mind.

I think another way I'd elaborate is to say that there are way better RPG's, or action RPG's or whatever. And if I'm in the right mood, I'd rather play those. But I've been in the midst of an extremely busy month and to be totally honest, Diablo III requires so little brain activity to actually play it - it was kind of exactly what I needed. Something where I never had to really think all that much, but could still get some feeling of "progression."
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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by isiolia Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:48 am

Exhuminator wrote:Now everyone has their own personal tastes, and I'm not saying Diablo III is crap. I'm just saying I personally don't understand what's great about it. As for my little gaming group mentioned, we had a lot more fun playing Soma Bringer multiplayer, which is similar to Diablo, but we all found it far more entertaining.


To be fair, Diablo III is designed to be played a hell of a lot more than anyone that's posted thus far seems to have played it. There are whole other modes to get into. A lot of the fun is similar to MMOs or whatnot in pushing for that next upgrade (so you can ratchet up the difficulty and get yet better loot, etc). It's just extremely fast by comparison.
Personally, I found it fun enough to blast through. It didn't "click" for me in the sense of playing every day for years on end, like the series does for some people.

The main thing with the console version of D3 that can be tiresome is that you can wind up waiting as people equip new abilities or gear, which tends to happen a -lot-.
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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by dunpeal2064 Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:51 am

isiolia wrote:The main thing with the console version of D3 that can be tiresome is that you can wind up waiting as people equip new abilities or gear, which tends to happen a -lot-.


Definitely. We ended up having specific moments where we would just all do our equips and upgrades.

I loved Diablo 3, my fiance and I played each character to max, did the post-game portal run thingies, all that jazz. Probably put around 500 hours into it, and still didn't reach the higher levels of play that were available.
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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by Exhuminator Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:53 am

noiseredux wrote:Diablo III requires so little brain activity to actually play it

This is probably why I didn't like it.
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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by noiseredux Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:00 am

Exhuminator wrote:
noiseredux wrote:Diablo III requires so little brain activity to actually play it

This is probably why I didn't like it.


yup. Understood. There are certainly times that I prefer a much deeper game. And then there are times when I'm too busy/stressed/tired to really have the focus that such a game would demand. Those are the times when I'll lean towards these sorts of games where it's kind of a mindless relaxation. Diablo III was almost more akin to my playthroughs of Cities: Skylines or Planet Coaster than it was to any RPG or action game.

Of course, I was also just playing through on Normal - and as isiolia pointed out, other folks get obsessed w/ D3 and it becomes this cycle of playing through it over and over again on harder and harder difficulties.
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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by dunpeal2064 Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:29 am

Yeah, when we play its on a higher difficulty (Extreme maybe? Whatever the default is for a new character, which is not nearly as high as the highest, but still challenging).

Also, perma-death of course, only way to play the game imo.

Doing those made the game tense, and brought out a lot of defensive mechanics that are pretty useless when there is no penalty whatsoever for death.
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