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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by marurun Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:25 pm

MrPopo wrote:I think if Bloodstained does well getting non-backers to purchase it speaks well for a side scrolling Metroid. And we have successes like Axiom Verge as well.


I think even if Bloodstained does great, with its sales across multiple platforms, that probably wouldn't be enough for a Nintendo marquee title. Nintendo took a risk with Team Ninja and it failed. I'm sure they are a bit more risk averse, now.

Sarge wrote:If we can get side-scrolling Mario, even now, we can get side-scrolling Metroid. But heck, I'll take another Prime game, too.


My understanding is that the New Super Mario Bros. games are not nearly as solid as those from the NES and SNES era. And Nintendo still is making 3D Mario games. Mario is also a much safer, higher-selling franchise.

I guess I need to admit that I would indeed love to see a new 2D Metroid title, but I just cannot imagine what would have to happen in the games market for Nintendo to decide it's worth doing. Kickstarter and indie titles are just not, I think, the kinds of titles Nintendo will be looking at for benchmarks.
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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by Sarge Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:35 pm

True, but the 2D entries also outsold the 3D entries by a significant margin.

(That being said, NSMB Wii was really, really good, despite my qualms with the NSMB physics.)
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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by Exhuminator Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:39 pm

marurun wrote:Nintendo took a risk with Team Ninja and it failed.

Everything that's wrong with that game is Yoshio Sakamoto's fault, not Team Ninja.
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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by ElkinFencer10 Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:41 pm

I absolutely loved Other M. It wasn't flawless - the writing could have used a little work (though I whole heartedly disagree with the complaints that it made Samus too "weak" or "emotional") and the "weapon authorization" mess was total bullshit - but it was a damn fun game. If I replayed it today and reviewed it, I'd probably give it a 4 out of 5.
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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by Sarge Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:06 pm

Yeah, I know it got flak for doing the same stuff that Fusion did structurally, but it got even more flak for the story, none of which was on Team Ninja.

I really enjoyed Other M. In fact, I enjoyed it a lot. Not perfect, but I'd put it in 8.5 or 9/10 territory.
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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by PartridgeSenpai Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:39 pm

marurun wrote:
Sarge wrote:If we can get side-scrolling Mario, even now, we can get side-scrolling Metroid. But heck, I'll take another Prime game, too.


My understanding is that the New Super Mario Bros. games are not nearly as solid as those from the NES and SNES era. And Nintendo still is making 3D Mario games. Mario is also a much safer, higher-selling franchise.


I think that NSMBU is one of the best Mario games EVAR (even if it ain't Woolly World :P ). I think a lot of them have been fairly good to great. That's just me though. It seems many do not share this opinion :P

Exhuminator wrote:Congratulations to everybody who enjoys Nintendo's new questionable-demographic catering IPs. I'm just salty because there hasn't been a new side scrolling Metroid or F-Zero for thirteen years and counting.


I totally understand Nintendo's hesitence to touch the Metroid series in earnist. I mean, the grand-daddy of the game Gunpei Yokoi has been out of the company (and the living world) for going on two decades. Without him pushing for new games (combined with the respect the other veterans have of not wanting to mess with what they perhaps saw as his baby), whenever a new Metroid happens, it's not because Miyamoto really wants to, it's probably because some third-party player wants to put their hat into the Metroid ring.

As far as F-Zero goes, that probably has more to do with how Sega would rather work on their own racing games (as they developed GX and AX, largely) and how Nintendo would rather focus on the more popular Mario Kart series.
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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by Exhuminator Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:34 pm

PartridgeSenpai wrote:I totally understand Nintendo's hesitence to touch the Metroid series in earnist. I mean, the grand-daddy of the game Gunpei Yokoi has been out of the company (and the living world) for going on two decades. Without him pushing for new games (combined with the respect the other veterans have of not wanting to mess with what they perhaps saw as his baby), whenever a new Metroid happens, it's not because Miyamoto really wants to, it's probably because some third-party player wants to put their hat into the Metroid ring.

Gunpei Yokoi was the producer of Metroid, but he was hardly a one man army. The original game was actually directed by Satoru Okada and Yoshio Sakamoto, not Gunpei Yokoi. Makoto Kano wrote the base scenario, while Hiroji Kiyotake, Hirofumi Matsuoka, and Yoshio Sakamoto designed the game's characters. The character design for Samus Aran was created by Kiyotake. If anybody is seen as the "grand-daddy" of Metroid by Nintendo, it's Yoshio Sakamoto, who acted as director of nearly every 2D Metroid and Other M.

Also Miyamoto hasn't directed a Mario game since 1999's Mario Artist: Paint Studio for the Nintendo 64DD. But that hasn't stopped Nintendo from cranking out Mario games constantly. So even if Yokoi was still around, either way it shouldn't have a bearing on the production of Metroid games as such.
PartridgeSenpai wrote:As far as F-Zero goes, that probably has more to do with how Sega would rather work on their own racing games (as they developed GX and AX, largely) and how Nintendo would rather focus on the more popular Mario Kart series.

The reason Nintendo hasn't created an F-Zero in over 13 years, is because Shigeru Miyamoto thinks the series has no room to evolve...

"I certainly understand that people want a new F-Zero game," Miyamoto explained to IGN. "I think where I struggle is that I don't really have a good idea for what's new that we could bring to F-Zero that would really turn it into a great game again. Certainly I can see how people looking at Mario Kart 8 could see, through the anti-gravity, a connection to F-Zero," Miyamoto continued. "But I don't know, at this point, what direction we could go in with a new F-Zero." ( http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013- ... ero-future )

That whole excuse is a just a decoy. I mean Nintendo has no problem making Mario Kart games over and over with barely any difference between them. The same could easily be done for F-Zero. The fact is simply F-Zero didn't sell the way Nintendo wanted it to. But that doesn't mean a bevy of new ideas couldn't make the series popular again. And if Miyamoto can't come up with those ideas, he needs to step out of the way, and let the younger minds at Nintendo offer up some fresh concepts for the IP.
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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by Flake Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:55 pm

January:
Super Mario Bros Advance 4: Super Mario Bros 3 (GBA/WiiU)
Super Mario Bros Advance 2: Yoshi's Island (GBA/WiiU)
Wario Land 4 (GBA/WiiU)

March:
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch)
Batman: Arkham Asylum (PS3)

Hey my first non-Nintendo game beaten this year! It happens every now and then.

This is my first time beating Arkham Asylum and I have to say, I finally get what the fuss is. Between the shockingly good story line (better than most of the movies), the character design/animation, and the voice acting (Kevin Conroy for President), the game creates an amazing immersive experience.

There were parts of the game where the tension was so much that I actually had to put down the controller (Killer Croc comes to mind) but it wasn't so much that I was discouraged from playing like I often am with Horror Titles (full confession, I am a wimp) so when I finally beat the game (normal difficulty), I felt as though I had really overcome something and made it through a night in the Asylum.

I have the other games in the series but I don't think I can tackle them back to back. It'd be hard to maintain this feeling.
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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by Exhuminator Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:11 am

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15. Crysis | PC | FPS | 2007 | 9hrs | 8/10

A lone man battles across a beautiful jungle isle, fighting nefarious infantry units, and then a bunch of monsters show up and everything goes to hell. This scenario sounds just like Far Cry, right? Well take Jack Carver, make him an active special forces agent (as opposed to an ex one), and give him a super suit, and there's Crysis plain enough. Crysis is unashamedly Super Far Cry. But that's not necessarily a bad thing, as Crytek deserved a chance to remake Far Cry properly. And they did it with Crysis.

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Not bad looking for 2007. But notice the FPS rate up at the top left. That's about as good a framerate as you could hope for at those settings at that time.

Anyone paying attention to PC gaming 10 years ago surely heard of Crysis. And those that tried to play it were likely disappointed by their current system's performance. There's no doubt that the Crysis-effect gave new PC sales a big boost in 2007. Along with coining the phrase; "But can it run Crysis?" I can tell you right now, my 2007 desktop definitely couldn't. This was an FPS that attempted to push gaming graphics into the next generation single handedly, making its peers look like amateur hour in comparison. To Crysis' testament, on Very High settings, it still looks impressive even today.

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I'm happy to report this is not an FPS that's all sizzle and no steak. Amazingly enough, Crytek actually created a consistently entertaining FPS here. There's a lot of variety thrown into the mix; you'll drive tanks and VTOLs, fight in zero gravity, and even disable a nuclear reactor with your bare hands, for example. The nuts and bolts of the FPS gameplay work perfectly, and the super suit does manage to change gameplay noticeably. Your suit allows you to do such things as cloak yourself invisibly, or increase bullet resistance, or increase strength tremendously. Unfortunately the suit's (thermokinetic regenerating?) battery lasts about 5 seconds when a power is used, meaning these abilities are best implemented only to help the player out of a quick jam.

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When in doubt, blow shit up.

I'll admit I didn't have my hopes high when I started playing Crysis. Usually stuff like this doesn't age very well, that is to say graphical show ponies. And the original Far Cry had been a sour note once the Trigen showed up. (Thankfully Crysis' aliens didn't annoy me nearly as much as they did.) Instead I found myself playing a consistently entertaining action sci-fi akin to some lost '80s film. It's also apparent to me now, having played this game 10 years after its release, just how influential Crysis was going forward. For better or worse, Crysis set the bar for seventh generation FPS games. And if nothing else, it made for a great 9 hour benchmark.

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Re: Games Beaten 2017

by PartridgeSenpai Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:14 am

Exhuminator wrote: And if Miyamoto can't come up with those ideas, he needs to step out of the way, and let the younger minds at Nintendo offer up some fresh concepts for the IP.


Sadly, this is not just Japan, but Japan corporate culture, so such things just do not happen Xp
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