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Re: Games Beaten 2016

by prfsnl_gmr Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:31 am

marurun wrote:Sarge, we may not entirely agree on our political views of the world, but I have hella love for your gaming preferences right now : ) We seem to feel very similarly about a lot of games.


Agreed. Sarge is the best. :D

marurun wrote:I think the Double Dragon games were also better on the NES.


BLASPHEMY!!!!! (The NES versions are, sadly, the best home ports, however.)
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Re: Games Beaten 2016

by BoneSnapDeez Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:32 am

Tales of Phantasia is boss.

NOW TIOME FOR CHRONO TRIGENOMETRY
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Re: Games Beaten 2016

by Sarge Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:34 am

Haha, yeah, well, I can be friends with lots of folks and disagree with their politics. And gaming knows no bounds. :)

I like the first Double Dragon better in the arcade, although the NES version is fantastic (if you don't care about co-op). There's a caveat to that, though: play the bootleg version without all the slowdown. ;)

Double Dragon II is probably the absolute best in the series. The game used to really creep me out, actually. Between the color choices and the music, some of those stages really have a disturbing vibe. That temple stage... plus the nerve-wracking jumps you have to make over spike pits just puts it over the top. I absolutely love the cyclone kick / hyper uppercut moves. I tend to use them more than the hyper knee, even if it's more powerful, since I can pull them much more consistently.

I like Double Dragon III as well, and it's a whole lot better than the arcade version or the other ports all over the place. It's just so freaking hard! I really have to put together a nice run, and exploit the AI quite a bit to even have a chance at the end. You really have to save Billy for that last fight, because the Cyclone Kick is invaluable.

Oh, right, and Super Double Dragon. I'd love to get a copy of that some day. I'd probably rather have the Japanese version, which was given a little more time to be finished up.
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Re: Games Beaten 2016

by ElkinFencer10 Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:34 am

BoneSnapDeez wrote:Tales of Phantasia is boss.

NOW TIOME FOR CHRONO TRIGENOMETRY

It'll be the next RPG I play, but I need a short break from RPGs. I'll probably fire up Dead Rising 4 this weekend since I haven't played it yet and hit Chrono Trigger either next week or after Christmas.
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by BoneSnapDeez Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:36 am

ElkinFencer10 wrote:I need a short break from RPGs


I dunno what this means.
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Re: Games Beaten 2016

by ElkinFencer10 Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:42 am

BoneSnapDeez wrote:
ElkinFencer10 wrote:I need a short break from RPGs


I dunno what this means.

You have to understand, Bone, that we mortals don't have the stamina that you gods posses. It's an inherent failing of our flawed species.
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Re: Games Beaten 2016

by MrPopo Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:43 am

BoneSnapDeez wrote:
ElkinFencer10 wrote:I need a short break from RPGs


I dunno what this means.

I think he's speaking in tongues.
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Re: Games Beaten 2016

by BoneSnapDeez Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:47 am

I take a break from Falcom games to play Microcabin games.
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Re: Games Beaten 2016

by Sarge Fri Dec 16, 2016 4:30 pm

January:
1) Bonk's Adventure (NES)
2) Little Samson (NES)
3) Holy Diver (NES)
4) Holy Diver (NES) (legit!)
5) Mitsume Ga Tooru (NES)
6) TMNT II: The Arcade Game (NES)
7) Mighty Final Fight (NES)
8] Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! (NES)
9) Monster In My Pocket (NES)
10) Battle of Olympus (NES)
11) Gunstar Heroes (GEN) (repeat)
12) Dragon Age: Inquisition (PS4)
13) Dragon Age: Inquisition - Trespasser (PS4)
14) Captain America and the Avengers (NES)
15) StarTropics (NES)
16) Double Dragon II: The Revenge (NES) (save states)
17) Double Dragon II: The Revenge (NES) (legit)
18) Crisis Force (NES)
19) Esper Dream 2 (NES)
20) Felix the Cat (NES)
21) Moon Crystal (NES)
22) Panic Restaurant (NES)
23) Frankenstein (NES)
24) Crystalis (NES)
25) Nekketsu Kakutou Densetsu (NES)

February:
26) Killer Instinct (GB)
27) Mashin Hero Wataru Gaiden (NES)
28) Sly Spy (ARC)
29) The Red Star (unreleased XBOX, also on PS2)
30) Adventure Island 4 (NES)
31) Cocoron (NES)
32) Batman: Arkham Knight (PS4)
33) Xeodrifter (VITA)
34) Doom 2 (PC)
35) Brandish: The Dark Revenant (PSP)
36) Magical Pop'n (SNES)
37) The Ninja Warriors (SNES)
38) Phantasy Star (SMS)
39) Phantasy Star III (GEN)
40) Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (3DS)
41) Brandish: The Dark Revenant (Dela Mode)

March:
42) Freedom Planet (Milla, 82 lives lost) (PC)
43) Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis (PC)
44) Lara Croft Go (AND)
45) Oniken (PC)
46) Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam (3DS)
47) Batman: The Video Game (GB)
48) Batman: The Video Game (NES)
49) Super Spy Hunter

April:
50) Mega Man 2 (NES)
51) Mega Man 4 (NES)
52) Mission: Impossible (NES)
53) Mega Man 6 (NES)
54) Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES)
55) Sword Master (NES)
56) DuckTales 2 (NES)
57) Rush'n Attack (NES)
58) Mega Man 3 (NES)
59) Mega Man 5 (NES)
60) Mega Man (NES)
61) S.C.A.T. - Special Cybernetic Attack Team (NES)
62) TaleSpin (NES)
63) Double Dragon III (NES)
64) Donkey Kong (NES)
65) Astyanax (NES)

May:
66) Master Chu and the Drunkard Hu (NES)
67) The New Ghostbusters II (NES, proto)
68) Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (PSP, via Dracula X Chronicles)
69) Revenge of Shinobi (GEN)
70) Shinobi III (GEN)
71) Shadow Dancer (GEN)
72) El Viento (GEN)
73) Earnest Evans (GEN)
74) One Must Fall 2097 (PC)
75) A Nightmare on Elm Street (NES)
76) Hebereke (NES)
77) Contra (NES)
78) Wario Land: Shake It! (WII)
79) Gimmick! (NES)
80) Ninja Gaiden (GG)
81) Wai Wai World 2 (NES)
82) Zoda's Revenge: StarTropics II (NES)
83) Uncharted: Golden Abyss (VITA)
84) Double Dragon (SMS)

June:
85) Astra Superstars (SAT)
86) Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance (360)
87) Star Wars: Dark Forces 2 - Jedi Knight (PC)
88) Star Wars: Dark Forces (PC)
89) VVVVVV (PC)
90) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Hyperstone Heist (GEN)
91) Broforce (PS4)
92) Momodora: Reverie Under the Moonlight (PC)
93) The Terminator (SCD)
94) Aban Hawkins and the 1001 Spikes (PC)
95) Electronic Super Joy (PC)
96) Golden Axe (GEN)
97) Double Dragon (GB)
98) Double Dragon II (GB)
99) Double Dragon III (GB)
100) Super Mario Land (GB)
101) Kirby's Dream Land (GB)

July:
102) Vapor Trail (GEN)
103) King Colossus (GEN)
104) Kirby: Planet Robobot (3DS)
105) Curse of Issyos (PC)
106) Alisia Dragoon (GEN)
107) Curse of the Crescent Isle DX (PC)
108) Tales of Hearts R (VITA)
109) Flashback (SCD)
110) Rayman Legends (VITA)
111) Wonder Boy in Monster World (GEN) (via 360)
112) Altered Beast (ARC)
113) Altered Beast (GEN)
114) Song of the Deep (PS4)

August:
115) Tatsunoko vs. Capcom (WII)
116) Another Metroid 2 Remake (AM2R) (PC)
117) Castle of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse (GEN)
118) Streets of Rage (GEN)
119) Technobabylon (PC)
120) Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins (GB)
121) Ax Battler: A Legend of Golden Axe (GG)

September:
122) Xenoblade Chronicles X
123) Final Fight (ARC) (via Final Fight: Double Impact)
124) Magic Sword (ARC) (via Final Fight: Double Impact)
125) Castlevania: Circle of the Moon
126) Ratchet & Clank: Quest for Booty
127) X-Men (ARC)
128) Vanguard (ARC)
129) Trio the Punch (ARC)
130) Street Fighter 2': Special Champion Edition (GEN)
131) Snake Rattle 'n' Roll (NES)
132) Rad Racer (NES)
133) Super Mario Bros. (NES)

October:
134) JAWS (NES)
135) Chronicles of Teddy: Harmony of Exidus
136) Double Dragon II: The Revenge (PCE CD)
137) Splatterhouse (TG-16)
138) Super Dodge Ball (PCE)
139) Demon's Crest (SNES)
140) Splatterhouse 2 (GEN)
141) Super Ghouls 'N' Ghosts (SNES)
142) Stargate (SNES)
143) ActRaiser 2 (SNES)

November:
144) Castlevania (NES)
145) Chip 'N' Dale's Rescue Rangers 2 (NES)
146) Chip 'N' Dale's Rescue Rangers (NES)
147) Gain Ground (GEN)
148) ActRaiser 2 (legit) (SNES)
149) The Rocketeer (NES)
150) Adventures in the Magic Kingdom (NES)
151) Kung Fu
152) Spartan X 2
153) Xexyz (NES)
154) Warlock Bentspine (PC)
155) Rise of the Tomb Raider (PS4)
156) Rise of the Tomb Raider - Baba Yaga: The Temple of the Witch (PS4) (DLC)
157) Rise of the Tomb Raider - Cold Darkness Awakened (PS4) (DLC)
158) Rise of the Tomb Raider - Blood Ties (PS4) (DLC)


December:
159) Rise of the Tomb Raider - Lara's Nightmare (PS4) (DLC)
160) Titanfall 2 (PS4)
161) Soul Blade (PSX)
162) Axiom Verge (PC)
163) Owlboy (PC)
164) Nitro Ball (ARC)
165) Desert Breaker (ARC)
166) Dead Connection (ARC)
167) Crystal of Kings (ARC)
168) Crime Fighters (ARC)
169) Vendetta (ARC)
170) Super Contra (ARC)
171) Contra (ARC)
172) Sunset Riders (ARC)
173) Rastan Saga (ARC)
174) Growl (ARC)

Might as well talk a little bit about Crime Fighters and Vendetta. They're both brawlers in the same series. I've always had some fascination for the former, since it was one of the cabinets in the closest Walmart when I was growing up. It looked fun, but ridiculously unfair, mainly because of the demo sequence that showed all the bosses ganging up on the protagonist. And at the end of the game, you do get to fight in that sequence. Hoo boy! Thankfully it's an optional deal, it still counts as beaten even if you can't get through it. In the US version, it's actually not possible as far as I know to 1CC the game and beat the bosses.

Anyway, it's closer to Double Dragon, but the moveset is less varied. You're mostly going to be relying on your punches since they're faster, a pretty awkward jumping kick that pretty much exists to get an enemy prone, and kickin' enemies while they're down. Honestly, even with some hit detection issues, I like the feel of the game, but I have to admit it's a bit of a slog. It's a long game, with eight levels, and you have to fight a lot of goons that take a lot of hits.

The sequel is improved in a lot of ways. It looks nicer, the hit detection is a bit better, and the engine feels a little more like the TMNT engine with some Double Dragon on top. I won't say it's a classic, but it was a reasonable time.

One thing I noticed is that Crime Fighters definitely had some tunes that sounded like they came from TMNT, so I'm thinking they may have had the same composer. (Yep.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k90iz5E ... 74&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqcrbXb ... E9F9ADEE74

It's actually got a very cool soundtrack. :)
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Re: Games Beaten 2016

by marurun Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:50 pm

Sarge wrote:I like the first Double Dragon better in the arcade, although the NES version is fantastic (if you don't care about co-op). There's a caveat to that, though: play the bootleg version without all the slowdown. ;)


I find the arcade controls to also be a little unreliable at times. Even though the NES game is very different, the controls seem to respond better, IMO.

Double Dragon II is probably the absolute best in the series. The game used to really creep me out, actually. Between the color choices and the music, some of those stages really have a disturbing vibe. That temple stage... plus the nerve-wracking jumps you have to make over spike pits just puts it over the top. I absolutely love the cyclone kick / hyper uppercut moves. I tend to use them more than the hyper knee, even if it's more powerful, since I can pull them much more consistently.


The NES version and PCE version are both super awesome. They are similar, though they feel a little different. The PCE version almost feels little more like the arcade, but not so much that it loses that quick response time the NES version has.

I like Double Dragon III as well, and it's a whole lot better than the arcade version or the other ports all over the place. It's just so freaking hard! I really have to put together a nice run, and exploit the AI quite a bit to even have a chance at the end. You really have to save Billy for that last fight, because the Cyclone Kick is invaluable.


The arcade version is a hot mess. Using quarters to buy powerups is almost like an early version of In App Purchases, only in the arcade instead of on your phone. The NES version, though, feels like the most polished set of Double Dragon moves around.

Oh, right, and Super Double Dragon. I'd love to get a copy of that some day. I'd probably rather have the Japanese version, which was given a little more time to be finished up.


I want this one, also. I played it a lot with friends back in the day. My only complaint about it is that, despite having a bigger move set, it doesn't feel any more action-y than the older ones. I actually think it feels slower and more cumbersome than DD3.
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