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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by marurun Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:22 pm

I think that logic is a bit convoluted. Sony isn't providing backwards compatibility for PS1 games to PS4 owners at all, and certainly not for free. And Nintendo has always provided backwards compatibility gratis where it was reasonable to do so with similar architectures, such as Gamecube to Wii, Wii to WiiU, GB to GBC to GBA, GBA to DS, and DS to 3DS. Microsoft is sort of the odd company out in providing Xbox and 360 compatibility without a paid subscription to Xbox Live Gold. Further, WiiU games are basically having to be ported over to Switch. The Switch isn't nearly powerful enough to emulate them, so it's not like they can make a one-time emulator and just tweak the settings optimally for each title. It's also a completely different architecture, so there are no shortcuts there, either. No, Nintendo isn't violating some modern industry practice or expectation, not by any definition, really.
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by Sarge Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:31 pm

It's worth noting that the PS4 has zero backwards compatibility. And that, much like the Switch, happened because of the architecture change.
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by isiolia Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:35 pm

Sarge wrote:It's worth noting that the PS4 has zero backwards compatibility. And that, much like the Switch, happened because of the architecture change.


To be fair, the Xbox platform also changed architecture. The PS3 was a more complicated system, and I think Sony also did an API change for the PS4...but you'd think they could have at least done PS1 if they'd been inclined.

My impression has been that MS and Sony basically flipped from 7th to 8th gen. The PS4, since launch, has been a purpose-built machine for current games and streaming. A major turnaround from the pricey, bloated (though feature rich) phat PS3 that slowly got trimmed down revision by revision. Meanwhile, MS took a stab at being the core of your living room with the Xbox One, and has continued to try and maintain value there (a la 4k Ultra disc support). Interestingly, the PS5 will be doing 4k Ultra discs. So, perhaps Sony will expand efforts in other areas as well.
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by Sarge Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:18 pm

There's also Microsoft's "backwards compatibility", but that's just games that have been tweaked to run on XB1 to download, as opposed to true BC. I love that they did that, though, and I plan on taking advantage if I ever get an XB1.
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by RCBH928 Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:12 pm

I may be old... but it still excites me when I see FMV in a videogame. Still feels like "The FUTURE".
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by opa Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:13 pm

Love FMV's too. Roundabout was awesome.
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by pook99 Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:59 pm

RCBH928 wrote:I may be old... but it still excites me when I see FMV in a videogame. Still feels like "The FUTURE".


I used to love those old FMV and laser disc games as a kid. Do any modern games still have FMV? The only one I can think of is quantum break, which I did absolutely love, and the FMV played a big part in that.
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by isiolia Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:22 am

pook99 wrote:I used to love those old FMV and laser disc games as a kid. Do any modern games still have FMV? The only one I can think of is quantum break, which I did absolutely love, and the FMV played a big part in that.


It probably depends on what you want to count. Live action is fairly rare, though there have been others designed around it (Her Story for instance). Prerendered cutscenes (still "full motion video") are pretty common though, as they can provide both consistent performance across platforms/system specs, and a window to load new 3D assets in the background.
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by bmoc Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:15 am

I've had the TV in my living room for a few years now. Yesterday I figured out that when it displays HDR video, it would switch over from the normal video presets like Cinema Mode, Game Mode, etc to special HDR versions of those presets. Unbeknownst to me, every time my PS4 Pro switched from regular video to HDR, it would go from Game Mode to HDR "Vivid". This had extra features like motion smoothing (soap opera effect) turned on. The only way to know that these HDR presets exist is to go into your video settings while HDR video is being output. Turns out that I have an HDR "Game Mode" too which I have now enabled. I discovered all this by watching Netflix on my PS4 Pro for the first time. I normally watch Netflix on the TV's native app. The motion smoothing was very apparent when watching stuff that should be 24 frames per second.

I sure played a lot of games without noticing. I wonder how much display lag I just saved myself from?
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by BoneSnapDeez Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:21 pm

The title of this random 7-year-old Escapist thread speaks to me on a deep personal level.
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