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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by pierrot Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:57 pm

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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by Xeogred Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:09 pm

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He can't even be bothered to stand up out of his seat to hear your complaints. :lol:
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by pierrot Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:48 am

That smug bastard! Supposedly he's a lizard, but that don't look like no lizard I ever did saw. Certainly not a Union Lizard. Wouldn't have been quite as bad if continuing didn't reset to Room 1 of Round 5, though.

I did beat him once I figured out that the I/O polling for the attack button is bandwidth limited, and I could prevent myself from randomly getting faced by those somersaulting shadow ninjas if I slowed down my mashing of the attack button. At that point I started dying to the fireballs, though! :evil: So I was down to my second to last life when I actually finished him off.

Did you try any of "Shadow Dancer II," Xeo? I played up to Round 3-2 before I had to continue, and I stopped there. Looks like it gives more continues though, so it seems like it might actually be easier, overall. There's a fair number of extra enemies to deal with, but they don't seem to make things all that much more difficult, and it's a short game to begin with. Also, did you ever get all 50 ninjas in any of the bonus rounds?

Although, I have to say, screw that first boss, and his friggin' frame-trap BS!
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by Erik_Twice Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:37 am

pierrot wrote:
Erik_Twice wrote:I think I should play Tactics Ogre. Seems like I would enjoy it.

Did you play Ogre Battle at all, before? I really enjoyed the story, and production values in the Saturn version of Tactics Ogre. I find the tactical battles to get kind of dull after a while, though, and really didn't enjoy the gameplay at all by the end. I was too invested in the story to stop, though. Oddly, I think I liked Ogre Battle's gameplay a bit more, overall, which is kind of weird, because I didn't really like Ogre Battle very much in general. They're both pretty good games, though. Not my favorites, but pretty good.

Hey sorry pierrot, I didn't see your message.

I have played like 30 seconds of Ogre Battle. I do have played Final Fantasy Tactics Advance which was clearly influenced by Tactics Ogre and I fancy something of the type. They also have some "story segments" that could be fun to talk about so.
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by Ack Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:43 am

I've never made it to the end of Shadow Dancer, and with this discussion, I really don't think I want to...
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by pierrot Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:38 pm

Erik_Twice wrote:I have played like 30 seconds of Ogre Battle. I do have played Final Fantasy Tactics Advance which was clearly influenced by Tactics Ogre and I fancy something of the type. They also have some "story segments" that could be fun to talk about so.

Ah, okay. I've only played a very small amount of the original FF Tactics, and a fair amount of A2, but there's quite a bit more going on in the FF Tactics series, mechanically, than in Tactics Ogre, I feel. It's not a necessity to play Ogre Battle first, either, but I think it kind of helps, and there's at least a bit more to the gameplay in Ogre Battle than in Tactics Ogre. TO has a really top tier story though. I wrote a lot about the game when I beat it a couple years ago. Here were my thoughts after finishing it, if you wanted some more detailed opinions:

https://www.racketboy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=49713&p=1075391&hilit=tactics+ogre#p1075391



Ack wrote:I've never made it to the end of Shadow Dancer, and with this discussion, I really don't think I want to...

Aside from the last three rooms of Round 5, it's not so bad. It's mostly just the red ninjas, and by extension, the shadow ninjas that act like red ninjas, that ever really bothered me; Aside from the final boss room, because that "lizard" is obviously a giant douche-canoe. The worst part is probably that the rate at which he summons another round of shadow ninjas seems to be somewhat random.
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by Ack Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:12 pm

Ogre Battle and Tactics Ogre are very different takes on the strategy/tactics RPG. They're both good, but TO has more in common from a system standpoint with games like Final Fantasy Tactics, Saiyuki, La Pucelle Tactics, or Echo Breaker. Ogre Battle will fill in the larger story, but it isn't necessary to enjoy TO. That said, if you like the original TO, you can seek out Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis. It's a side story that doesn't require any knowledge of the OB/TO universe, and it's a fun game.
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by Jmustang1968 Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:24 pm

I love all things Ogre Battle and Tactics Ogre. There is a good mod for the Tactics Ogre PSP remake whuch enhances and "fixes" what I already feel like is the or a top tier tactics RPG. I can give more info if interested.
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by Ack Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:45 pm

No reason not to, jmustang! Lay it on us.
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