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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by isiolia Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:29 pm

Reprise wrote:Here's the UK VSC's response anyways. Apparently one of the girls is described as a 'first year', although I've seen someone comment that under Japan's grading system, this would actually make them 16 or older (above the UK's legal age of consent), but I have no idea if that's true or not. It's difficult to defend the 'holding a teddy bear' but though... I just guess my confusion is, why hasn't any other 'creepy' 'weeb' game been banned here until now?


Well, to be fair...

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That character has all the actual appearance of being maybe ten years old. Not that various explanations aren't used for why young-looking anime characters might actually be "old", but if going by what it looks like...yeah, I can see why they blocked it.
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by RCBH928 Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:12 am

Ack wrote:
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RCBH928 wrote:The Saturn is a lot of fun if the PSX didn't exist.


I'm not following how the Playstation existing makes the Saturn not fun.

I think he means that the Saturn would have done better and had much more interest from developers if there had been no Sony PlayStation. But I could be wrong.


Exactly, every kid and adult would be after the Saturn if no N64 or PSX have been released. This is an imagenary situation but the point is Saturn is fun, but given there is a better system out there not many paid much attention to it. Its kind of like releasing a good movie on the same week of a big blockbuster.

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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by PartridgeSenpai Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:26 am

Reprise wrote:Here's the UK VSC's response anyways. Apparently one of the girls is described as a 'first year', although I've seen someone comment that under Japan's grading system, this would actually make them 16 or older (above the UK's legal age of consent), but I have no idea if that's true or not. It's difficult to defend the 'holding a teddy bear' but though... I just guess my confusion is, why hasn't any other 'creepy' 'weeb' game been banned here until now? Does this now set a precedent moving forward? Or is this either a random anomaly that will be forgotten or is it that this game is actually worse than prior weeb games?

The game is explicit in its setting within a “school” environment and the majority of the characters are young girls – one child is referred to as being a “first year” student and is seen holding a teddy bear. The game clearly promotes the sexualisation of children via the sexual interaction between the game player and the female characters. The style of the game is such that it will attract an audience below the age of 18.

There is a serious danger that impressionable people, i.e. children and young people viewing the game would conclude that the sexual activity represented normal sexual behaviour. There is a constant theme of sexual innuendo and activity throughout the game that suggests behaviour likely to normalise sexual activity towards children. As a means of reward gained by successfully navigating the game, the player has the means to sexually stimulate the female characters by using either a hand held remote device or touch screen software.

The VSC Rating Board believes this content in a game, which would have strong appeal to non-adult players, is an issue which would be unacceptable to the majority of UK consumers and, more importantly, has the potential to be significantly harmful in terms of the social and moral development of younger people in particular.


A first year would be the equivalent of a 10th grader, so she could technically be 15. Not to mention the teddy bear is REALLY clearly an effort to further infantalize her to appeal to the kind of people who are into that kind of thing. Sexualization of children is something Japan has a really serious problem with, and even if this is a bit of a double-standard with previous games, this kind of refusal against that kind of content has to start somewhere and is only a good thing in my mind.
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by Reprise Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:54 am

Yeah, it's hard to argue against really and I can see why it's been banned here. It's interesting it hasn't been banned in America. Are there any instances in the United States of games being banned? As I pointed out earlier, this is the second console game to be banned in the UK since Manhunt 2. It's not a long list.

I just guess I'm not a huge fan of 'banning' things, especially art and media. They don't make problems go away and although this time they might go for some creepy weeb game I have no interest in, but what about when they go for a game I am interested in? In retrospect, banning Manhunt 2 is lame and I can't say I'm particularly happy when games get censored. South Park Stick of Truth is one example that was censored to be released in Europe (as well as Australia). How long before games like GTA end up banned? UK tabloids even started a campaign against Detroit: Become Human recently too, because of the "disgusting" scenes depicting domestic violence and neglect against a child.
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by Forlorn Drifter Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:51 pm

Yakuza Kiwami 2 coming west August 28th boys and girls! So excited.

Really hope we can get 3,4, and 5 on PS4 too. Just port them over and throw them on a disc. If any change is needed, just give us the content cut from 3 in the west.
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by Segata Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:41 am

So I have been talking with Nathan Barnatt (Talking Classics/Kieth Apricary) and I'm sending him my second DreamEye since I have 2. He's shooting a Kieth Music video with the DreamEye. Also seems he lost some TC episodes since an HD died a while back and I happened to have the HD versions on my PC so he can put on the next TC DVD. So it was cool talking to him. Real cool dude.
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by Ack Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:44 pm

Glad to hear he's doing well. I hope things have been working out for him.
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by BoneSnapDeez Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:29 pm

Ah okay. So when you get Akalabeth on GOG.com you don't automatically get the upgraded 1998 version with music and the save/load feature. Instead you get a bare-bones hard as hell version. The 1998 one is included in the "goodies." I figured this out by searching the internet and stumbling upon a 3.5 year old GOG forum post written by one MrPopo. So thanks, Popez!
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by MrPopo Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:27 pm

BoneSnapDeez wrote:Ah okay. So when you get Akalabeth on GOG.com you don't automatically get the upgraded 1998 version with music and the save/load feature. Instead you get a bare-bones hard as hell version. The 1998 one is included in the "goodies." I figured this out by searching the internet and stumbling upon a 3.5 year old GOG forum post written by one MrPopo. So thanks, Popez!

Jeez, did I really play it that long ago?
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Re: Random Gaming Thoughts

by RCBH928 Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:28 am

So years ago I discussed gaming on iOS/iPhone/iPad/ and Android devices and if we will see these "phones" -mini games- will ever replace handhelds and consoles. After looking at Fornite for iOS, now I can say, we are finally here.

I know people here frown on touch-screen controls, but now you can use controllers
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