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Re: What are you playing?

by BoneSnapDeez Tue May 28, 2019 12:35 pm

Ack wrote:
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ElkinFencer10 wrote:I started a bet with flake Friday night that I could beat all three Xenosaga games before August, and I had a bet with him and popo that I could beat the first one before the end of the night Monday (5/27). I finished Xenosaga 1 on Sunday night, and as of last night, I'm just over halfway through Xenosaga 2. I won one bet and am WELL on my way to winning the second.


how......


For you? Of course. Elkin does not drink. Does not smoke. Does not make love. What do you do, Elkin?


Ah I see I have another straight edge comrade here. XelkinX
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Re: What are you playing?

by pook99 Thu May 30, 2019 10:42 am

Replaying Castlevania 3 for the billionth time since I plan on finally starting season 2 of the castlevania netflix show.
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Re: What are you playing?

by ElkinFencer10 Fri May 31, 2019 8:16 am

Ack wrote:
BoneSnapDeez wrote:
ElkinFencer10 wrote:I started a bet with flake Friday night that I could beat all three Xenosaga games before August, and I had a bet with him and popo that I could beat the first one before the end of the night Monday (5/27). I finished Xenosaga 1 on Sunday night, and as of last night, I'm just over halfway through Xenosaga 2. I won one bet and am WELL on my way to winning the second.


how......


For you? Of course. Elkin does not drink. Does not smoke. Does not make love. What do you do, Elkin?

Haha, yeah, when I really get focused on a game, I pretty much don't eat, and the PS2 is set up in a room adjacent to a bathroom, so those breaks don't cut out much time. I also had six cans of Red Bull to keep me going. It was a definite power weekend.

Also, I finished Xenosaga 2 last night. Starting Xenosaga 3 tonight.
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Re: What are you playing?

by SuperDerpBro Fri May 31, 2019 10:55 am

I just finished Adventure Time The Secret of the Nameless Kingdom on PS3. Bought it on a whim cause it looked kinda cool. Didn't disappoint. Dungeons were far better than i thought they would be. Its not as good as a certain Zelda game they are paying homage to, but fun none the less :)
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Re: What are you playing?

by PartridgeSenpai Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:52 am

I'm still really in the mood for playing through JRPGs I'm already familiar with in Japanese, so after FFVI last weekend, this weekend I picked up FFIV on the PS1 to play through~. Mostly because Maru really likes it over FFVI, and it's been a decade since I last played FFIV and beat it, so I think it's really worth I give it another look.

I just rescued Rosa and am about to climb the mountain to go to the town with the Wind Crystal (I guess it's called Fuble? I have no recollection of what the English name is XP), and I've spent about 3 hours with the game so far. It really does show its age immediately. The PS1 port is apparently a quite faithful port of the SFC original, and it REALLY shows. Mostly in that the menus are hecking dreadfully clunky and hopelessly cluttered. Especially because there's no inventory sorting of any kind, all of your equipment and items share one massive thing, even equipping stuff is just a huge pain in the ass. (The Japanese original also has offensive items that are basically one-use free spells, as well as every status effect having its own curative item, so your inventory is CONSTANTLY full of shit compared to the English SNES port). The inventory clunkiness is definitely my #1 mechanical complaint so far.

Narrative and presentation-wise, it definitely shows its age too. It's kinda incredible, in a way, looking at a game like FFIV that dropped in 1991, and then looking at something like Far East of Eden Zero, and the staggering difference in power that developers were able to squeeze out of the SNES by 1995 (granted FEoEZ has some extra hardware in the cart helping that along, but I digress). The most immediately noticeable thing for me about the presentation is the lack of the cinematic elements that make later Square SNES games like FFVI and Chrono Trigger feel so alive. The sprites and movements in FFIV are much more simple, and while you can definitely see the building blocks in what cinematic elements are there that would lead to those later games, they are definitely lesser. Although something I can certainly say FFIV already has down to a science is the use of music to help carry the tone of a scene. One of the biggest problems Lufia II has, imo, is the lack of music changes to address a changing tone in a scene, and it's just neat to be reminded of how early on Square was implementing that kind of atmosphere in its storytelling.

The story is good so far, but definitely more straightforward and quite jarringly so at points. Like, for example, Rydia (the green haired summoner girl) meets the main character Cecil after he accidentally carries a box to her village full of Bomb enemies that burn it to the ground. Cecil also before that inadvertently kills her mother, and it takes a little while for her to trust him, and he has to carry her over a desert to safety and then kill a squad of guard to defend her for her to start trusting him. It's a really touching bit of storytelling that goes well with explaining your new addition to your party.

Then, conversely, you have how Rydia isn't learning any fire spells, and it's later explained that this is because she's still very understandably traumatized from her village being burned down in front of her eyes and everyone she knows getting burned alive. A quite naturally horribly traumatic experience for a child. How does she get over her traumatic fear of fire? Her friends ask her really nicely to be brave and burn down the ice blocks in front of them because otherwise the bad guys are gonna do more bad things because the party can't progress. It's a really jarringly shockingly hamfisted bit of storytelling around a topic the game has otherwise been okay about. Even the game's more detailed original Japanese script is more straightforward and moment-to-moment than FFVI, but sometimes I feel that's not so much to the game's benefit Xp

I'm enjoying the game so far, but I am definitely finding it inferior to FFVI so far. So far it feels more like a very solid book-end to 8-bit JRPGs, a game opening up the door to the next era, rather than a real next-gen game that easily stands toe-to-toe with Square's (and others') later JRPGs on the system.
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Re: What are you playing?

by pierrot Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:40 pm

PartridgeSenpai wrote:I picked up FFIV on the PS1 to play through~.

How are you able to stay sane with those load times for the menus?

Mainline Final Fantasy really peaked with FF III-J. FFs V, IX, XI, XII, and XIII end up feeling kind of like anomalies within a pretty lackluster brand.
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Re: What are you playing?

by marurun Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:49 pm

Pierrot, I love that you are the Final Fantasy opposite of most of the folks on this board. Keep on keepin-on! I mostly agree with you.
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Re: What are you playing?

by PartridgeSenpai Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:18 pm

pierrot wrote:
PartridgeSenpai wrote:I picked up FFIV on the PS1 to play through~.

How are you able to stay sane with those load times for the menus?

Mainline Final Fantasy really peaked with FF III-J. FFs V, IX, XI, XII, and XIII end up feeling kind of like anomalies within a pretty lackluster brand.


The load times are really okay other than for saving and loading. Making a save takes like one whole freakin' minute and that really starts to drain on you after a while :lol:

It's been too long since I've played through IX too. I really gotta give that a replay someday too.
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Re: What are you playing?

by PartridgeSenpai Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:28 am

Well, after much troubleshooting and a second FFIV disc, I have come to the conclusion that the red laser in my PS3 must be going, because it went from a second copy of FFIV having identical crashing and music issues to the first, to the PS3 outright refusing to read PS1 games at all. I can even hear it changing lasers in the disc tray once it fails reading the first time. So this run of FFIV is dead forever, unfortunately. At least I only got a few hours in and not nearly to the end. More reason than ever to finally pick up a Japanese PS2 I suppose.
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Re: What are you playing?

by pierrot Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:22 am

PartridgeSenpai wrote:More reason than ever to finally pick up a Japanese PS2 I suppose.

It's a pretty good investment, as long as you don't want to play Mystic Ark on it--.

PartridgeSenpai wrote:I don't gel well with job systems, so I don't really care for III and V.

:lol: The job system pretty much is Final Fantasy, to me.


marurun wrote:Pierrot, I love that you are the Final Fantasy opposite of most of the folks on this board. Keep on keepin-on! I mostly agree with you.

I appreciate it, maru. I actually started with FF IV, though. It was my first FF, and one of my first JRPGs. For a while it was the standard that I measured everything else by, but I mostly liked it for dumb kid reasons:
'You go to the moon. Best game EVAR!'

I do still kind of get why people would like it, though. More so than VI, anyway.
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