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Re: Just got SF4 and I stink!

by Niode Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:35 am

The 360 controller sucks for every character except Zangief. SImply because those 360/720 rolls are child's play with an analogue stick. You can seriously dominate with zangief once you figure out the timing of the rolls and when to counter. His throws hit HARD. Learn a few of the meaty combos in the challenges and you're set. As long as you aren't turtling you'll win most matchups online. When zangief is walking towards you he's extremely threatening because if you get into a corner against Zangief you're in for a world of pain.
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Re: Just got SF4 and I stink!

by Zapf Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:16 pm

You should play some KoF on ggpo nathan! You can get a neo geo -> usb adapter probably if you want to use your AES controller - they also made some usb and ps2 versions of the neo geo stick http://www.shopncsx.com/neogeostick2usbcontroller.aspx (there are better sticks out there but if you're comfortable with this who am I to say you're wrong!).

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Re: Just got SF4 and I stink!

by Mod_Man_Extreme Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:37 pm

emwearz wrote:SSF4 has a second Ultra for every character, new stages and new characters.

You unlock characters by meeting requirements.
http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2009/02/15/how-to-unlock-all-street-fighter-4-secret-characters-guide.htm

The 360 controller is horrid for fighting games, why so many people have opted for arcade sticks / fighter pads (Which are similar to Saturn pads in presentation).

Glad you getting the hang of it though.

SSF4 also had a complete rebalancing and fixed the broken collision detection from the first game. Not to mention it's leagues faster that SSF4, basically regular SF4 is an ice cream truck and SSF4 is a dragster.
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Re: Just got SF4 and I stink!

by Zapf Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:49 pm

Its not really that much faster to be honest.
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Re: Just got SF4 and I stink!

by wip3outguy7 Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:28 pm

The Street Fighter series is downright rigid when compared to say, King of Fighters. SNK fighting games usually give you a way out which results in a more dynamic style of play. Fatal Fury had the plane switch, KoF has rolls and leans to avoid attacks or get behind your opponents. The Street Fighter series has never really had this extra dimension. Capcom has tried to fill this void with "focus" or "parry" techniques. Save for a few characters who have specials that allow them to move "through" opponents (Akuma, Dahlsim, etc), you are going toe to toe until one of you falls in Street Fighter.
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Re: Just got SF4 and I stink!

by jfe2 Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:38 pm

I would have to recommend the TE Edition fight stick from Madcatz. That thing makes it like playing in an arcade, minus the boogers and bodily fluids all over the controls.
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Re: Just got SF4 and I stink!

by wip3outguy7 Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:59 pm

Agreed. The TE from Madcatz is the best bang for the buck in the arcade stick market these days. I would even buy one of those before I would build my own. They are that good.
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Re: Just got SF4 and I stink!

by Niode Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:07 pm

wip3outguy7 wrote:Agreed. The TE from Madcatz is the best bang for the buck in the arcade stick market these days. I would even buy one of those before I would build my own. They are that good.


I've got two of them, I love them. Plus having two means you can get rid of the notion that you're winning because of the controls rather than your skill. Plus you can plug them into a PC and use them with emulators.
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Re: Just got SF4 and I stink!

by EvilRyu2099 Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:48 pm

wip3outguy7 wrote:The Street Fighter series is downright rigid when compared to say, King of Fighters. SNK fighting games usually give you a way out which results in a more dynamic style of play. Fatal Fury had the plane switch, KoF has rolls and leans to avoid attacks or get behind your opponents. The Street Fighter series has never really had this extra dimension. Capcom has tried to fill this void with "focus" or "parry" techniques. Save for a few characters who have specials that allow them to move "through" opponents (Akuma, Dahlsim, etc), you are going toe to toe until one of you falls in Street Fighter.

I think there is a bias to this posting.. There was that "dynamic" in the III series.. You had parries and had to rely on situational Super Arts rather than the run and gun style seen in the alpha series or even most SNK games.. My favorite SNK fighter to this day is still Garou due to the "Just Defend" implemented in it, my second favorite being Last Blade 2.. I pretty much thought the KoF series, while great, is a bit overrated as well.. The reason most tournament players don't play KoF as often is because you don't get the chess match you do with the Street FIghter III or Guilty Gear XX series..
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Re: Just got SF4 and I stink!

by Luke Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:11 pm

Weird.
I didn't just get SF4 but I stink too.
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