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Guinness is Falsely Copyright Claiming Hundreds of Speedruns

Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 9:17 pm
by Ziggy587
Guinness is Falsely Copyright Claiming Hundreds of Speedrunning Videos!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXughXH7YTc




This is really dumb. I've thought a lot about starting a YouTube channel, but everything I hear about copyright claims just makes it sound like it would be nightmare. But THIS is taking it to another level.

Hopefully this gets resolved in favor of all the runners affected by it, I feel bad for them.

Re: Guinness is Falsely Copyright Claiming Hundreds of Speed

Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 9:29 pm
by Ziggy587
Apparently Guinness is already working to fix this. There's a pinned comment from them, but people have their suspicions what really happened.

Whether or not Guinness intended to "acquire" the rights to a world record speedrun video and/or claim copyright to hundreds of speedrun videos so they could get the ad revenue, who knows? But if nothing else, this shines a light on how broken the entire system is right now. The content creation that exists right now is unprecedented, but many of these content creators have to walk on eggshells in regards to copyright infringement.

Re: Guinness is Falsely Copyright Claiming Hundreds of Speed

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 8:38 am
by opa
I've never understood how companies can claim copyright on videos of video games. You're not distributing the software, assets, or music. It's literally just a video; not the actual content contained in the game code.

Re: Guinness is Falsely Copyright Claiming Hundreds of Speed

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:46 pm
by Anapan
Gunniess just reinstated Billy Mitchell's records in their records. The wording behind their reasoning is completely unrelated to the reason it was removed. Their credibility was already questionable, but this is just so totally unscientific and unprofessional. SMH...

Re: Guinness is Falsely Copyright Claiming Hundreds of Speed

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:21 am
by Omerta
Anapan wrote:Gunniess just reinstated Billy Mitchell's records in their records. The wording behind their reasoning is completely unrelated to the reason it was removed. Their credibility was already questionable, but this is just so totally unscientific and unprofessional. SMH...


Didn’t these guys used to make all of those big annual picture books that accumulate at Goodwills? Or are they a beer company? I don’t know. I used to know when there wasn’t an internet. I wouldn’t want to waste a perfectly good Googling on them.

The struggle for relevance is real.

Re: Guinness is Falsely Copyright Claiming Hundreds of Speed

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:35 am
by Ack
Both, from what I recall. The world record book was created as a way to help drunk folks at the pub have a way to back up claims. I think they split at some point, and the brewery is now owned by Diageo.

Re: Guinness is Falsely Copyright Claiming Hundreds of Speed

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:13 am
by marurun
Guiness’s reasoning is actually pretty sound. They are VERY hesitant to invalidate records without very solid proof, because they are normally sticklers for verification for inclusion. Their reliance on Twin Galaxies may have been a mistake due to the buddy-buddy nature of the original founder with Mitchell, but the fact is they allowed those scores in, and nothing short of a smoking gun or admission of guilt will generally reverse them (according to one source I read).

Re: Guinness is Falsely Copyright Claiming Hundreds of Speed

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:40 am
by Ziggy587
Here's a sort of follow up video...

Guinness World Records Should Stay Out Of Gaming