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Re: Together Retro: Beat-'Em-Ups

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:47 pm
by dunpeal2064
I'm hoping to squeeze out a few more games before the month is up. Even if that does't happen, though, this TR month has been a blast, and I enjoyed Battle Circuit so much that I've been working on a possible 1cc attempt (Never tried this for Beat 'Em Ups!).

Re: Together Retro: Beat-'Em-Ups

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:52 pm
by Exhuminator
noiseredux wrote:My goal was just one game though I had considered a few others.

I think even just beating one game per TR is admirable. That's still active participation and investing in retro communion. That said, I'm going to be cutting back in upcoming TRs. My goal now is to beat 1 - 3 games per TR. I enjoy chasing down fitting titles and playing lots of them, but I'm running out of time for my normal gaming in doing so. Gotta strike a better balance.

Re: Together Retro: Beat-'Em-Ups

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:12 pm
by noiseredux
My goal is generally one game per TR granted I have access to an applicable game. Now with the Switch along with Xbox One that possibility certainly grows. I'm bummed that I didn't get the dungeon crawlers month under control but the eBay seller took so long to ship that I ended up discouraged with such limited time for Morrowind. But future months should be more promising.

Re: Together Retro: Beat-'Em-Ups

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:10 pm
by prfsnl_gmr
Man...Vigilante (TG16) is rough...and not in a good, challenging way, nor even in a cool and gritty way. Just in a poor hit detection sort of way. Kung Fu (NES) and Kung Fu Master (GB) are way, way better.

Double Dragon III (Arcade) is also pretty terrible, and I am once again stuck trying to 1CC the last level in a game designed to eat your credits. I have not been that impressed with Gekido (GBA) either, it has amazing, Neo Geo-level graphics, but the gameplay is very ho-hum. I have resolved to beat all of them, however, and to finish the month strong.

I ended up participating this month way more than I thought I would. I don’t even like this genre that much, but I guess the fact that most of the classic games in the genre are relatively short really appealed to me. The highlight was definitely Mighty Final Fight (NES). I love that game now.

I also think I have been inspired to play through all of the games in the Double Dragon series. Here’s what I’m thinking:

Double Dragon (Arcade)
Double Dragon II: The Revenge (Arcade)
Double Dragon 3: The Rosetta Stone (Arcade)
Double Dragon (NES)
Double Dragon II: The Revenge (NES)
Double Dragon III: The Sacred Stones (NES)
Double Dragon (GB)

Super Double Dragon (SNES)
Double Dragon V: The Shadow Falls (SNES)
Double Dragon (NEO GEO)

Double Dragon Advance (GBA)
Double Dragon Neon (PS3)
Double Dragon II: Wander of the Dragon (Xbox 360)
Double Dragon IV (iOS)


(I haven’t yet beaten the games in bold.) Would this cover the series? Is there any reason I should add the Sega Master System and Sega Genesis ports? What about the games, like Double Dragon II (GB) and Double Dragon (Game Gear), that are just re-skinned versions of games from other franchises? Should I add the Japanese version of Super Double Dragon?

Re: Together Retro: Beat-'Em-Ups

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:21 pm
by noiseredux
Double Dragon II GB is a Kunio game reskinned.

Re: Together Retro: Beat-'Em-Ups

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:46 am
by Sarge
Played through Wizard Fire. I liked it well enough, but it might be stretching the "beat-'em-up" definition a bit; it feels more like Gauntlet in a lot of ways. It also felt like it shared a lot in common with Dungeon Magic, which of course also serves the role of "isometric fantasy-based brawler". I think I liked this one better, though, which feels a bit strange to say; I've always seen Data East as a solidly B-tier developer, but they surprised me here. I'll give it a 6.5.

Also, speaking of Dungeon Magic, it apparently got run at SGDQ this year.

Re: Together Retro: Beat-'Em-Ups

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:20 am
by prfsnl_gmr
noiseredux wrote:Double Dragon II GB is a Kunio game reskinned.


This is true, which is why I didn’t add it to the list. Apparently, Double Dragon for the Game Gear is a reskinned Streets of Rage game, which is why I now really want to play it, but didn’t add it to the list either.

Re: Together Retro: Beat-'Em-Ups

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:04 am
by noiseredux
prfsnl_gmr wrote:
noiseredux wrote:Double Dragon II GB is a Kunio game reskinned.


This is true, which is why I didn’t add it to the list. Apparently, Double Dragon for the Game Gear is a reskinned Streets of Rage game, which is why I now really want to play it, but didn’t add it to the list either.


I misread your original post - haha. I thought you were ASKING if it was a reskin. Sorry.

Re: Together Retro: Beat-'Em-Ups

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:22 am
by alienjesus
prfsnl_gmr wrote:Man...Vigilante (TG16) is rough...and not in a good, challenging way, nor even in a cool and gritty way. Just in a poor hit detection sort of way. Kung Fu (NES) and Kung Fu Master (GB) are way, way better.

Double Dragon III (Arcade) is also pretty terrible, and I am once again stuck trying to 1CC the last level in a game designed to eat your credits. I have not been that impressed with Gekido (GBA) either, it has amazing, Neo Geo-level graphics, but the gameplay is very ho-hum. I have resolved to beat all of them, however, and to finish the month strong.

I ended up participating this month way more than I thought I would. I don’t even like this genre that much, but I guess the fact that most of the classic games in the genre are relatively short really appealed to me. The highlight was definitely Mighty Final Fight (NES). I love that game now.

I also think I have been inspired to play through all of the games in the Double Dragon series. Here’s what I’m thinking:

Double Dragon (Arcade)
Double Dragon II: The Revenge (Arcade)
Double Dragon 3: The Rosetta Stone (Arcade)
Double Dragon (NES)
Double Dragon II: The Revenge (NES)
Double Dragon III: The Sacred Stones (NES)
Double Dragon (GB)

Super Double Dragon (SNES)
Double Dragon V: The Shadow Falls (SNES)
Double Dragon (NEO GEO)

Double Dragon Advance (GBA)
Double Dragon Neon (PS3)
Double Dragon II: Wander of the Dragon (Xbox 360)
Double Dragon IV (iOS)


(I haven’t yet beaten the games in bold.) Would this cover the series? Is there any reason I should add the Sega Master System and Sega Genesis ports? What about the games, like Double Dragon II (GB) and Double Dragon (Game Gear), that are just re-skinned versions of games from other franchises? Should I add the Japanese version of Super Double Dragon?



There's also Battletoads & Double Dragon games too, if those are something you'd want to play.

Re: Together Retro: Beat-'Em-Ups

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:36 pm
by Sload Soap
I beat Robo Army the other night. It's an early-ish SNK beat em'up where you play as a cyborg who has to kick the mechanized piss out of other cyborgs to stop a guy turning all humans into cyborgs. Cyborgs were a pretty big deal back in 1991.

It's slightly better than okay but it isn't mind blowing. There's only six stages and the final one is a just a corridor with previous bosses lined up for a re-pummeling. It's got this gimmick where you get a six shot supermove but the twist is the first two shots clear the screen, then the next two are powerful projectiles and the final two are two melee blasts. It's okay and slightly better than some of the other stuff around at the time, but not by much. The enemies are also pretty samey and the backgrounds a bit muted which is disappointing. One thing I don't expect from a SNK game is a muted colour palette. It does play well though and is fun while it lasts. It was a credit feed run both times but it isn't a horribly difficult game so if you want an easier beat em'up it's worth a look. I played the Hamster rerelease on Xbox One so you get the usual options to add scan lines and change the screen size, etc, standard stuff.

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