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Help with HDTV

by 9Volt Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:10 am

Hello people!

Please, I am kind of a noob on this stuff. Recently I hooked up my snes on an hdtv. I am using a scart converter to hdmi, but the image's not perfect.

Here is the first example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StETT-w_haY

The Blue Falcon looks good, but Samurai Goroh´s car on the other hand:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3ryh-pqGIM

Looks like it's flicking.

Here is a Star Fox test:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViADs1gBYxU

And Kirby´s Avalanche:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrVYu7WVRBk

Can someone help me? Thanks a lot!
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Re: Help with HDTV

by Cronozilla Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:15 am

I don't have any RGB equipment yet, but I have been doing a lot of research to gear up to buy some junk. I believe if it's not a dithering issue, it could be an interlaced issue with the output.

You should probably show what Scaler/converter you're using.

Outside of that, it looks pretty spectacular!
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Re: Help with HDTV

by Exhuminator Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:24 am

I'm no expert on this, but it looks like it might be some sort of interlacing issue.

You may find an answer (or at least an informative read) at this site:

http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/

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Re: Help with HDTV

by Sarge Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:25 pm

That does look like a deinterlacing issue to me. That happens with cheaper converters, like the ones I have. :( Those colors on the car may be making it look more visible, or the car itself may have some jitter that's giving the deinterlacer fits. The latter would be kinda strange, because I don't see much movement on the car in other videos. What brand of converter are you using?

It does look pretty good otherwise!
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Re: Help with HDTV

by 9Volt Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:17 pm

Hey folks, thanks for the answers.

Gonna read that site and try "squeeze" more the cables. I use this converter:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scart-HDMI-to-HDMI-720P-1080P-HD-Video-Converter-Monitor-Box-For-HDTV-DVD-STB-/310620740857?ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123

The funny thing is that the Blue Falcon originally had this effect too!

Again, thanks everyone.
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Re: Help with HDTV

by 9Volt Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:12 pm

Hey people! I am back, I have another stupid question. With my upscaler, wich is better for retro games: 1080p or 720p?

Thanks! :mrgreen:
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Re: Help with HDTV

by Ziggy587 Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:59 am

9Volt wrote:1080p or 720p?


Sorry for the non-answer, but it entirely depends. The quality of your scaler, the scaler in your TV, the source, and it's completely subjective to boot. I say try both 720 and 1080 with each game and just pick whichever looks better. More often than not, I'm guessing you wont find a distinguishable difference between them.
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Re: Help with HDTV

by Kidpanda Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:52 pm

I would use whatever the TV natively outputs at. If you're feeding it a 1080 signal, then use 1080. 720, then use 720.
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Re: Help with HDTV

by KalessinDB Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:37 am

9Volt wrote:Hey people! I am back, I have another stupid question. With my upscaler, wich is better for retro games: 1080p or 720p?

Thanks! :mrgreen:

Ziggy and the Panda mostly have the right answer... but I'll add: If you did upgrade to a Framemeister and are using scanlines, 720p. They don't quite look right at 1080. But that's pretty well-publicized if you're into the Framemeisters at all, so I don't even really know why I'm writing this...
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Re: Help with HDTV

by Ziggy587 Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:40 pm

I was using 480p with my Framemeister for most things for a while. I preferred the way it looked when my TV upscaled it from there. It "blurred" it slightly, so jaggies weren't as bad.
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