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Re: Is the PSP still the best bang for your buck portable em

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 3:41 am
by Mozgus
If you can find a Vita at or under firmware 3.60, the exploit scene for it has been thriving lately. I sold off my PSP 3000 and PSPGo in favor of it. It can run basically all PSP and PSP homebrew and emulators now, plus native emulators and Vita backups until late 2016 depending on specific games' firmware requirements. I use Retroarch for most 8 and 16bit emulation and it's basically perfect. GBA is sketchy with some audio stutter, unless you use some GBA for PSP emulators but they do a ton of frame skipping to achieve results. This should become pefect once they utilize the Vita's hardware acceleration.

Re: Is the PSP still the best bang for your buck portable em

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 10:33 pm
by ADingoAteMyBaby
SuperDerpBro wrote:
ADingoAteMyBaby wrote:My go to emulation machine is the Original Xbox with Coinops 8 installed and tons of other stand-alone emulators. Over 7,000+ games on mine as we speak. My second choice would be a modded Wii.


Super portable!


Yeah, kinda missed that you said portable in the title :|.

Re: Is the PSP still the best bang for your buck portable em

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 10:34 pm
by SuperDerpBro
:P

Re: Is the PSP still the best bang for your buck portable em

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 10:13 am
by Matteo
Hi, since I recently got a PSP-2004, I wanted to do some retrogaming. Anyone may post a picture of the original Sony charger for this model? The console is not turning on, so I'll start by trying to charge it, if it's not working I'll buy another battery. Thanks for your help.

Re: Is the PSP still the best bang for your buck portable em

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 10:19 am
by racketboy
Hey Moz! Crazy to see you back!

Back on topic:
How's these things stack up between a PSP and an Android device (I have a Nexus 4 laying around, for reference)

- Battery Life
- Setup difficulty
- UI once set up

Re: Is the PSP still the best bang for your buck portable em

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 10:34 pm
by Jagosaurus
racketboy wrote:Hey Moz! Crazy to see you back!

Back on topic:
How's these things stack up between a PSP and an Android device (I have a Nexus 4 laying around, for reference)

- Battery Life
- Setup difficulty
- UI once set up


Battery life is a concern for me on all mobile devices. My phone is 2 years old right now & the battery is starting to fade. I've seen new PSP batteries on ebay but I'm not sure how reputable they are.

Android emu is easy to set up. Very similar to PC. Modding a PSP depends on model, and it'll be similar to other soft mods. You're making a device run custom software, it wasn't intended to. Going to be some tweaking.

The PSP GUI is the standard Sony interface you're accustom to seeing. On Android, if you're running a single emulator, it means opening an app, then having the ROM folder mapped. Now, if you run RetroArc, you'll get that slick GUI for multiple emus (cores). I haven't dove into RA yet personally.

Keep in mind, while it was fine 5 to 10 years ago, the PSP emu is considered subpar today compared to recent Android emu. A few comments in this thread solidified that for me.

Re: Is the PSP still the best bang for your buck portable em

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 11:44 pm
by nullPointer
Jagosaurus wrote:Keep in mind, while it was fine 5 to 10 years ago, the PSP emu is considered subpar today compared to recent Android emu. A few comments in this thread solidified that for me.
I definitely respect all your points above, and agree with most of what you're saying, but I just wanted to provide some counterpoint, being as the PSP actually continues to be my preferred portable emulation device. Part of this preference is due to the portability aspect. The PSP was purposely built expressly as a gaming device. In order to run an android device as your preferred portable gaming solution, you're going to have to settle on one of two solutions. You're going to need to become accustomed to touch screen controls (eww), or you're going to need to gear up with some peripherals. In terms of peripheral controls you can go with a 'cradle controller' option like the Moga controller or a completely separate and detached Bluetooth controller. Either way you're essentially now dealing with two separate gaming devices, and if you go with the latter option (the separate controller) you also need to consider yet another option of how you plan to prop up the screen while you play. All of this begins to adversely impact the actual portability of the device(s). I travel on a somewhat regular basis for my job, so when I think of portability my mind immediately goes to, "what can I easily stow in my carry on luggage in such a way that I can easily play games with a minimum of preparation and quickly stow again with a minimum of effort?" For my use-case the PSP perfectly fits with my requirements of portability, being as it's one single purpose built device for gaming.

The other thing the PSP has going for it is the native support for PSP and PSX titles (though in the case of the latter you may occasionally need to faff about with POPS Loader, though only rarely is it an absolute necessity). I have yet to see an android emulator that can run PSX games as well as the PSP can natively (though admittedly I've not explored this area in a deep and meaningful way). So that means the PSP can run most of the more popular 2nd through 4th gen systems very well, plus PSX and PSP titles (and naturally not even Windows emus will run PSP titles as well as the device itself).

Android is definitely a very good option for portable emulation, and Jagosaurus is definitely right about the benefits it can bring (one of the most attractive being that it's still an area of active development), but I'd point out that the good ol' PSP still has some nice positive points as well. I'd probably only retire mine in favor of a Vita (which is somthing I've been definitely been considering).

Re: Is the PSP still the best bang for your buck portable em

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:15 pm
by Jagosaurus
@null,

Great point regarding the controller. 1 up for the PSP there if looking to play truly on the go. If you're in a hotel room, etc an Android phone with a Bluetooth controller is a great solution. I'm not using touch screen controls unless it's a RPG or SRPG.

Also, an Android device will output to a TV in HD. I imagine the PSP will be 240i over component for many emulators and PS1 games. Most TVs won't support this resolution. Then you're tethered to the handheld & cord length versus a wireless BT controller on Android. 1 up for Android there IMO.

What's the biggest PSP memory card? Can you hold more that 1 or 2 PS1 or PSP games?

I love that my modded oXbox can play retail .xbe game files, but the first thing I did was upgrade the HDD so I could hold a ton of ROMS/.isos/retail games. Switching games back & forth off a limited space, proprietary memory card needs a mention. I can put a 128GB SD card in my phone. 1 up for Android there IMO.

I have experience with POPS on PS2 and it seems roughly 80% compatible. Is it higher on the PSP?


It's actually on my list to dedicate my current Samsung Note 4 to an "emulator station" once I upgrade soon. I'll need to buy a new battery. It will still be a second, dedicated device for me personally versus using my daily phone for emus.

Confession:
I've wanted a modded PSP for about 10 years :lol:. I get attached to these mod projects and enjoy the tinkering as much as playing. It is fun to just see "what device x can do" :D. It's thrilling (yes... lol I'm a nerd) to find out things like the PS2 has a great Genesis and GB emulator. Who knew! PS2 POPS & OPL BLEW MY MIND. For those reasons, I wanted a modded PSP. Also, bc I was jealous when I saw folks with one circa 2006.

Re: Is the PSP still the best bang for your buck portable em

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 9:27 pm
by Exhuminator
Jagosaurus wrote:I've wanted a modded PSP for about 10 years :lol:. I get attached to these mod projects and enjoy the tinkering as much as playing. It is fun to just see "what device x can do" :D. It's thrilling (yes... lol I'm a nerd) to find out things like the PS2 has a great Genesis and GB emulator. Who knew! PS2 POPS & OPL BLEW MY MIND. For those reasons, I wanted a modded PSP. Also, bc I was jealous when I saw folks with one circa 2006.

PSP is super easy to soft mod:

https://nicoblog.org/guides/update-to-6 ... l-pro-cfw/

Emuparadise has a great PSX2PSP download section:

https://www.emuparadise.me/PSX_on_PSP_I ... -Titles/67

If you want to play a PS1 game on your PSP that's not in that list, doing it yourself is easy also:

https://nicoblog.org/guides/psx2psp-v1- ... -games-to/

It's all very easy, seriously. If you need help feel free to ask.

Re: Is the PSP still the best bang for your buck portable em

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 10:14 pm
by Jagosaurus
Exhuminator wrote:
Jagosaurus wrote:I've wanted a modded PSP for about 10 years :lol:. I get attached to these mod projects and enjoy the tinkering as much as playing. It is fun to just see "what device x can do" :D. It's thrilling (yes... lol I'm a nerd) to find out things like the PS2 has a great Genesis and GB emulator. Who knew! PS2 POPS & OPL BLEW MY MIND. For those reasons, I wanted a modded PSP. Also, bc I was jealous when I saw folks with one circa 2006.

PSP is super easy to soft mod:

https://nicoblog.org/guides/update-to-6 ... l-pro-cfw/

Emuparadise has a great PSX2PSP download section:

https://www.emuparadise.me/PSX_on_PSP_I ... -Titles/67

If you want to play a PS1 game on your PSP that's not in that list, doing it yourself is easy also:

https://nicoblog.org/guides/psx2psp-v1- ... -games-to/

It's all very easy, seriously. If you need help feel free to ask.


Yeah, I've looked into it multiple times, bookmarked links, and even owned a PSP for over a year with the intent of modding it. I really liked the system, but my time sunk into other projects & I eventually sold it to fund other adventures.

Today, if I soft modded one, it would be for mainly for the PSP library in digital form, secondary would be PS1 RPGs, then last emulation.

I know I asked this already but I'm still a little baffled by the PS1 on PSP love but no dual analog for PS1... but I guess only a handful of titles required them versus d pad? I know the PSP Go suppports a wireless PS3 controller which is cool.

Thanks exh, will add this thread to my "one day" bookmarks for the PSP :]. Adding CoinOps to the oXbox, getting into Windows PCE/TG16 emulation, acquiring a 2600 to USB adapter (2600-dapter), diving into the 2600 emu scene, & a dedicated Android emulation device are my projects on the horizon. Ask me next week & I might have a different list for you :lol:.

I'm actually thinking a modded PSP might be great for my kiddo in a year or two. He loves the 8-16 bit cartoon style games.