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by PretentiousHipster Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:42 pm

I find that both of them have an almost post-metal approach to alternative metal. The difference between them is that Tool focuses on making complex and progressive music, while Deftones goes for a more melancholic style, and at times borders on shoegaze. Still, songs like Digital Bath and Passenger sound like songs that would belong in a Tool. Hell, Maynard James Keenan is in the latter track.

I'm on the fence with Tool's earlier work, but Fear Inoculum was just a bad album. It felt like a insincere carbon copy of their old work. Also Chocolate Chip Trip is just an awful track. Synths that sounds outdated in the worst way possible.

Admittedly there is a bias with this. I find the majority of progressive music to be empty in terms of emotion. It's just people showing off how well they can play. Bands like Dream Theatre and Anathema are just abysmal. Full of cliches and easy metaphors. I tend to connect to music emotionally, and I find Deftones achieves that.
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by BoneSnapDeez Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:27 pm

Yeah I find progressive metal completely alienating and boring myself. Wanky musicianship and garbage-tier clean production. Woof.

Early Anathema (the death-doom era) is so fucking awesome though. I remember importing their first two albums when I was a teenager, as no local record stores stocked them. Waited like six weeks for those bastards to finally arrive from England. The band has indeed sucked balls for, like, the past two decades though.
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by marurun Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:07 pm

And I actually love progressive rock and like progressive metal. I find it can be rather emotional. Usually musical wankery is driven by emotion, just a different set of them. I mean, early progressive rock came out of psychedelic rock and married blues and classical music traditions, and the two pillars of prog, Yes and Rush, were driven by drugs and spiritualism in the case of the former and intellectualism in the case of the latter. But neither is devoid of emotion, certainly. It just may not be an emotional payload that you connect with.
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by PretentiousHipster Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:47 pm

Yea it may be a different set of emotions.

Practically the only non-emotional music I really love is 2013 and later era Autechre. They reached the point where they make computer programs that make the music with max msp instead of playing around with the electronic instruments themselves. It doesn't sound human at all, cause well, it isn't human lol.

I also don't connect with stuff like Power Metal, even emotionally. Looked up some defenses of it, and the one that stood out the most was someone saying it's because it's not "masculine" enough. That can't be the case for me because I'm addicted to bubblegum bass music now.
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by REPO Man Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:59 pm

The new Nightwish single, Noise.

Off their forthcoming Human Nature album, the song and its video tackle technological addiction and social media obsession in the current day.
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by opa Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:28 am

I've been going through Молчат Дома's albums (Molchat Doma if you want to search in English). Kind of a rock / synth group with an 80's-ish vibe. I like some of their songs better than others but it makes for good listening while you're doing some task or chore.

Кино's "blood type" is another good rock album... there's a lot of great music out of Russia.
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by BoneSnapDeez Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:32 pm

I love Russian black metal. Lotta Nazis in the scene tho.
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by REPO Man Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:05 pm

Fuck Nazis!!
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by marurun Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:11 pm

REPO Man wrote:Fuck Nazis!!


Nah, man. Then you just get MORE Nazis. Reproduction ain’t the answer
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by PretentiousHipster Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:21 am

BoneSnapDeez wrote:I love Russian black metal. Lotta Nazis in the scene tho.


My favourite Russian black metal album is by Культура курения, but it's one of those hipster "black metal without the metal" bands. Some of the best guitarwork I've ever heard in metal music though. It's like The Smiths.

This is their heaviest song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElFvgF2-Lpk

If you love Russian synth and post-punk, then this series on youtube is essential https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7q3uEcxaxc
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