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Re: what in your opinion are the worst jrpgs

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:55 am
by Jmustang1968
BoneSnapDeez wrote:Working Designs localized some great stuff, but also some surprisingly dull entries. Vay and Cosmic Fantasy 2 failed to wow me at all.


I like Vay

Re: what in your opinion are the worst jrpgs

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:18 pm
by Sload Soap
I don't play that many JRPG's but there have been a few recent ones that really put me off.

First was Infinite Undiscovery which was just hackneyed and cheap looking. Then there was Final Fantasy XIII which is for innumerable reasons about my least favourite game ever.

Most disappointing however was Eternal Sonata. It's a really beautiful game in a lot of ways but the main selling point for me was the really intriguing concept behind it. You see, the game is set inside the mind of Polish composer Frederic Chopin as he lays on his deathbed. I kind of went in expecting a deep and complex narrative, perhaps of a man retreating into a fantasy world to escape an inevitable and painful death from tuberculosis, or him reviewing his life's work and accomplishments and how much they really matter in the end. You know, something meaningful.

Nope. Just another environmental message/"we can do it if we work together" bit we've been seeing since FF1. There's a bit of unnecessary nihilism thrown in for good measure but the game completely forgets it's supposed to be about Chopin for massive sections of play. There are a few points where the developers chucked in some biographical data on Chopin in the form of text dumps on top of stock pictures (that look like they were pulled from Encarta Encyclopedia circa Windows 95) and that's it until the very very end. The allusions to Chopin's musical career and influence are only on the most superficial level with characters and places named after musical styles, instruments or terminology. More bizarre is that some of these characters are named after genres formed way after Chopin's death which just further added to misguided approach the developers took when drafting the story in my mind.

So yeah, what a waste of a concept. That and it's also too easy and has an awful English dub. Not a terrible game by any means but damn, it's soooo pretty and the combat is somewhat interesting I can't help feel it's massive missed opportunity. Could have been something really special if the developers had spent more time redrafting the story and expanding on that concept.

Lost Odyssey is great though. Just thought that needed to be said.

Re: what in your opinion are the worst jrpgs

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:14 pm
by BoneSnapDeez
Jmustang1968 wrote:I like Vay


Any particular reason? I found it to be a town-dungeon-town-dungeon slog complete with endless tedious grinding and a painfully blasé battle system and game world. The fancy pants cutscenes and voice acting couldn't hide the fact that the game is on par with a 1988-era Dragon Quest wannabe.

Sload Soap wrote:Infinite Undiscovery


Yeah this one wasn't great. When tri-Ace fails they fail hard.

Sload Soap wrote:Then there was Final Fantasy XIII which is for innumerable reasons about my least favourite game ever.


You are my spirit animal.

Sload Soap wrote:Most disappointing however was Eternal Sonata. It's a really beautiful game in a lot of ways but the main selling point for me was the really intriguing concept behind it. You see, the game is set inside the mind of Polish composer Frederic Chopin as he lays on his deathbed. I kind of went in expecting a deep and complex narrative, perhaps of a man retreating into a fantasy world to escape an inevitable and painful death from tuberculosis, or him reviewing his life's work and accomplishments and how much they really matter in the end. You know, something meaningful.

Nope. Just another environmental message/"we can do it if we work together" bit we've been seeing since FF1. There's a bit of unnecessary nihilism thrown in for good measure but the game completely forgets it's supposed to be about Chopin for massive sections of play. There are a few points where the developers chucked in some biographical data on Chopin in the form of text dumps on top of stock pictures (that look like they were pulled from Encarta Encyclopedia circa Windows 95) and that's it until the very very end. The allusions to Chopin's musical career and influence are only on the most superficial level with characters and places named after musical styles, instruments or terminology. More bizarre is that some of these characters are named after genres formed way after Chopin's death which just further added to misguided approach the developers took when drafting the story in my mind.

So yeah, what a waste of a concept. That and it's also too easy and has an awful English dub. Not a terrible game by any means but damn, it's soooo pretty and the combat is somewhat interesting I can't help feel it's massive missed opportunity. Could have been something really special if the developers had spent more time redrafting the story and expanding on that concept.


I love Eternal Sonata, but the Chopin aspect was really poorly-written and underdeveloped, yeah...

Sload Soap wrote:Lost Odyssey is great though. Just thought that needed to be said.


Yup.

Re: what in your opinion are the worst jrpgs

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:30 pm
by alienjesus
BoneSnapDeez wrote:Stuff about 7th gen RPGs


Wait, you've played video games from years that start with '20'?

Re: what in your opinion are the worst jrpgs

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:33 pm
by Ack
alienjesus wrote:
BoneSnapDeez wrote:Stuff about 7th gen RPGs


Wait, you've played video games from years that start with '20'?


Yeah, 2000 BC.

Re: what in your opinion are the worst jrpgs

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:38 pm
by Jmustang1968
Well I liked Vay when I was a kid. I havent played it in years

Re: what in your opinion are the worst jrpgs

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:53 pm
by BoneSnapDeez
alienjesus wrote:
BoneSnapDeez wrote:Stuff about 7th gen RPGs


Wait, you've played video games from years that start with '20'?


Yeah!

There was a period for about a year - before I got into "collecting" games - where I "only" had NES, Game Boy, SNES, Dreamcast, PS2, Wii, DS, and PS3 for consoles. I got some 7th gen gaming done then.

Re: what in your opinion are the worst jrpgs

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:01 pm
by Exhuminator
It's hard to believe Bone actually plays PS3, but then again I think he said he plays Vita too. So maybe he's not as much of a luddite as he puts on. ;p

Re: what in your opinion are the worst jrpgs

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:20 pm
by BoneSnapDeez
check out my old set-up bro
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Re: what in your opinion are the worst jrpgs

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:33 pm
by noiseredux
Haha mostly PC and handheld...