RetroGaming with Racketboy Podcast Episode #2

Note from racketboy: This month, Dave sits down with two legends in the gaming industry – Eugene Jarvis and Mark Turmell. While working at Williams/Midway, both men collaborated to create a game that is featured in this month’s Together Retro series: Smash TV

Mark Turmell

turmellMark has been publishing games since 1981, and his credits include great Atari titles such as Fast Eddie and Turmoil, arcade juggernauts such as Smash TV, NBA Jam, and NFL Blitz, and console best sellers such as MLB Slugfest, NBA Ballers, and NBA Showtime. . In the interview, Mark talks to me in depth about Smash TV, his thoughts on the declining arcade industry, his personal game collection, and his work on a Smash TV sequel.

For information beyond what is in the podcast, I’d strongly recommend our listeners take a look at two interviews here and here.

Eugene Jarvis

jarvisEugene Jarvis has one of the most impressive résumés in games industry. Not only was he the co-creator of Smash TV, but he also designed Defender, Robotron 2084, Blaster, N.A.R.C., Cruisn’ USA, and other seminal arcade games. Jarvis, who is currently the head of Raw Thrills Inc., discussed how he got involved in Smash TV, reflects on the history of gaming, how arcades might become relevant again, the future of Virtual Reality, and the status of retrogaming.

Please note that Jarvis’ audio during the interview isn’t of the same quality as the rest of the show as he was only able to speak via telephone. We figured that his insight was worth any trade-off in audio fidelity and hope you agree!

For more information on Eugene, you can read his Wikipedia article or the excellent interview in Halcyon Days.

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Show Outline

  • (Smash TV soundtrack excerpt)
  • Dave’s Intro
  • Interview – Mark Turmell
  • (Smash TV soundtrack excerpt)
  • Interview – Eugene Jarvis
  • Dave’s Outro
  • (John Parr – “Running Away With You”- The Running Man Soundtrack)

Next Time on the Podcast…

The next episode, which will be up later this month, will focus on our other November Together Retro Game: Wizard of Wor. Interviews with high score record holders and more are scheduled!

In the meantime, be sure to leave comments in the podcast forum!

Together Retro: Wizard of Wor & Smash TV

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New To Together Retro? Check out the introduction to the club

What’s this?  A double feature not featuring Godzilla?  That’s right boys and girls.  We thought that since we are in the season of giving, we at Racketboy should give our followers of Together Retro a little present.  This month we have not one, but two excellent games from up for our monthly gaming sessions.  We know many of you are not into horror games so you sat out on Resident Evil last month, but this month everyone can dive into one of two arcade multidirectional shooters.  The two chosen titles are Wizards of Wor, the 1981 Midway Scifi classic, and everyone’s favorite gameshow outside of the Price is Right – SMASH TV.  But enough of this, lets get into why we are blowing things up this month.
(Since we are doing two titles, for simplicity, we have two separate Together Retro write ups.)
Special Note: Stay tuned for this month’s RetroGaming with Racketboy podcast — it will go along nicely with these two featured games :)

Wizard of Wor

History:
Released in 1981, Wizard of Wor (often mislabeled as Wizard of War) put the player in control of a Worrior, a nare-do-well space hero of some kind.  The Worriors travel through the maze fighting off an array of monsters called worlings (formal names are Burwors, Garwors, Thorwors, and occasionally the bonus Worlucks).  These worlings are under the control of the Wizard, who also likes to show up occasionally.  Your objective is to survive in the labyrinth as long as possible.  Simple concept with some really unique quirks.

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Famous as one of the first games to use synthesized speech, Wizard of Wor is at its heart just a labyrinth.  A labyrinth full of space
monsters and a taunting wizard, but a labyrinth none the less.  Many gamers should remember this title from the 2007 PAX keynote in which Will Weaton recalls his love of the game.  Even to this day the game holds one of the most gloomy atmosphere for a well loved and respected game (typically the gloomy or horror games get put off to the side of the mainstream).  Its creepy music, disappearing badguys, and taunting speech is the stuff nightmares are made of, just like the Never Ending Story and Return to Oz.  Wizard of Wor also added in a unique counter-op style of gameplay in that you score points for not only defeating enemies, but for defeating your teammate.  Using a teammate can make for an interesting set of tactics (ie stand in a corridor back to back and fire at anything that moves), but you do have to worry that they can turn on you at any second.

Controls:
One joystick and one button makes it one of the simplest game we will feature in Together Retro, but don’t you worry about the difficulty. In the arcade, the joystick has two contacts in each direction.  If you tap your controller in a direction your character will turn that way, if you hold it that way they will move.  While the button fires your gun, obviously.  Now movement is kinda tricky based on the perspective.  While the maze is seen from the top down perspective, the characters are seen from the side.  This makes for alittle bit of a mind screw in that you end up walking on nothing or the walls.  It is a unique style and really makes you think the first couple rounds.

Recommended Ports:
While we are going to favor the arcade version the most, there are several good ports if you would rather use those.  The Commodore64 version is fantastic, so is the Atari 800 version.  However the Midway Arcade Treasures 2 version is going to be the easiest to obtain (however the Gamecube version of Wizard of Wor has bad sound problems).  It was also released on the Atari 2600 and 5200, but I cannot comment on those versions.  Now if you want to buy an actual arcade cabinet, depending on the condition they will go for about $500 to $2000 (almost 10 years of attending coin operated auctions and eBay in consideration for the prices).  At the last auction I saw one for sale (Fall of 08) a standard cabinet went for alittle over $400 but needed a new screen and controls.

Smash TV

History:
From the minds of Eugene Jarvis and Mark Turmell comes one of the truest spiritual successor to Robotron 2084, Smash TV.  Jarvis created Robotron in the 80s and with heavy influence from The Running Man and one can only imagine a love for oneliners, Smash TV was given to gamers in the arcade in 1990.  Straying from his earlier works scifi world, Smash TV takes place inside of one of the most violent gameshows ever conspired.  Set in the future year 1999, Smash TV is the story of lucky contestants that get to compete in the gruesome fragfest for money, fame, and cutting edge technology like VCR and 2600 inch tvs!  The gameplay is fairly simple in that you move through the rooms trying no to die and kill everything as quickly as possible.  However unlike our other title, Smash TV features a standard overhead view and an overzealous announcer who has so many great quotes: “TOTAL
CARNAGE! I love it.”

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Each Arena has three levels and then a final boss fight.  Each level is broken up into a handful of rooms which you get to decide how you wish to proceed and a boss fight at the end.  You will never go to every room on a floor and sometimes you’ll end up running into a horde of badguys far more difficult than you ever imagined possible.  But that is the nature of the game.  Smash TV is about carnage.  Expect to die, expect to get a gameover, expect to plug in a few quarters.  No matter how great you are at games, Smash TV is a different beast.  Ive seen people who have been the best in the world in classic arcade games, die in the first fifteen rooms on their first try (it took them five dollars to beat the game – took me forty or so my first time). However dont let that turn you off.  Before you die you will kill a lot of enemies.  The game will through you powerups just as often as it throws you enemies.  From invincibility to a rocket launcher, the powerups are just as awesome as the enemies you will be fighting.

Controls:
Like its predecessor, Smash TV features a unique dual joystick control scheme.  One joystick moves you while the other lets you shoot in any direction.  Early ports had to make due with a lack of buttons or joysticks in creative ways, more on that below.

Recommended Ports:
I am going to recommend the NES version as one of the best ports in that while parts are toned down, you can use two controllers to emulate the dual joystick mode of the arcade original (or a fourscore and four controllers if you opt for two player).  If you would prefer a more standard port it is featured in the Midway Arcade Treasures compilation for the Gamecube, PS2, and Xbox and is a download for the Xbox 360.

(Note: If you would prefer to have the opinion on an expert on all matters of SmashTV, our resident podcaster dsheinem recently spoke with Mark Turnmell.   Mr. Turnmell stated that the best port is the Super Nintendo one and that the NES one is possibly the worst.)

Emulation Help

If you need any help with attempting to emulate the game, post your problems in our forums and hopefully we’ll be able to help…

Together Retro Discussion

Instead of posting in the comments section of the blog, we will be using the forum for all of our discussion in order to keep things more organized. So play these Midway Classics and talk to us about your thoughts and play experiences in the forums. We want to know your favorite parts, your successes and your failures!

The Best Sega Saturn Games Under $25

For my next revision to the Cheapest Games series , I wanted to revisit the Sega Saturn. The values of the popular Saturn games have increased significantly over the last few years — especially for complete copies of the game.  Because of this, I’ve bumped up my criteria for the list to games that are under $25.   Now keep in mind, the prices quoted below are for complete copies of the game in excellent condition.  If you want to save a lot of money, you can usually find disc-only versions of the games.

Not only does this revised list reflect the changing values, but I’ve also expanded it and included a Japanese-exclusive list and a short list of popular Saturn games that are sigificantly cheaper as Japanese releases.   Hopefully, this revised list of Saturn  games will help you start or build up your collection without having to spend much.. (Prices listed are an average eBay price for US games, including shipping)

Cheap Classics

Nights into Dreams Cover NiGHTS into Dreams: $19
This crown jewel of the Sega Saturn used to be one of the most afforable games on the system. However, with all the nostolgic talk about the game and the general disappointment of the Wii sequel, the demand for Nights into Dreams for the Saturn has pushed the price up to the $20 range. Until this fan favorite gets a solid port to another console, the demand for this otherwise common game should stay high.  If you
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Panzer Dragoon Zwei Cover Panzer Dragoon Zwei: $23
While it kinda pushes the price limit of this guide, Panzer Dragoon Zwei is one of the more affortable foundations of the Saturn library. You can usually find it to be a better value than the original Panzer Dragoon.
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Panzer Dragoon Cover Panzer Dragoon: $19
Of course, if you are a fan of on-rails shooters and want a well-rounded Saturn library, it’s not a bad idea to check out the original Panzer Dragoon either.
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Street Fighter Alpha 2 Cover Street Fighter Alpha 2: $10
As one of my favorite fighting games of all time, I can’t help but put Street Fighter Alpha 2 on this list. At around $10, it can still fit into the smaller budgets. While some may prefer the larger character lineup of the more expensive Street Fighter Zero 3 (Alpha 3), I feel that Alpha 2 has more balanced gameplay and tighter control.
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Galactic Attack Cover Galactic Attack (Layer Section): $17
The Sega Saturn is one of the best consoles for fans of 2D shoot-em-ups.  Unfortunately, most of the best shmups on the system were only availible in Japan and usually sell for $40 or more (many time a LOT more).   Fortunately, one of the most recommended shooters for the Saturn was actually released in the US and carries a rather reasonable price tag.  Galactic Attack (also known as Layer Section, Rayforce, or Gunlock) is one of Taito’s best of the genre and had a number of gameplay innovations considering its release date.
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Astal Cover Astal: $10
It is always a pleasure to enjoy some of the two-dimensional artistry that some developers treated gamers to on the Saturn.  Astal is one of the earliest examples of 2D beauty on the Saturn and still holds up as an enjoyable 2D platformer.   It also happens to be a game that went under the radar of many Saturn owners, so grab this 2D bargain on the cheap while you still can.
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Rayman Cover Rayman: $8
After a decade, most gamers are familiar with Rayman.  However, in the 32-bit era, this platforming series was an abitious newcomer.  Much like Astal, it is a beautiful example of two-dimensional action.   Rayman also happens to be one of the least-expensive games on this list (especially considering it wasn’t a pack-in for the Saturn)
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Night Warriors Cover Night Warriors: Darkstalkers Revenge: $13
Even though the Darkstalkers series essentially uses the same engine as the Street Fighter Alpha series, it is still a blast to play due to is diverse cast of characters and it’s flashy style.  If you are a fighting fan or even just like monster movie characters, Night Warriors is a must-play — especially for the price.  (Also check in the imports section below for the sequel)
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Super Puzzle Fighter Cover Super Puzzle Fighter 2: $20
This little classic used to be a bit more expensive over the last decade, but now that it’s been re-released as an affordable download on the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3, the original releases have come down a bit in value.  Of course many gamers might not think a puzzle game for an old machine is worth $20, but it’s one of my personal favorites and a bit of a collector’s item as well.
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Die Hard Arcade Cover Die Hard Arcade: $18
If you are a fan of old-school side-scrolling beatemups, Die Hard Arcade (known as Dynamite Deka in Japan — and precursor to the not-quite-as-fun Dynamite Cop on the Dreamcast)  should be right up your alley.  Even though it’s 3D, it has plenty of action, cool weapons, and just enough weird stuff in it to keep things interesting.
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Daytona USA Cover Daytona USA: $5
As one of the biggest launch titles and eventual pack-in game, Daytona USA is one of the most common games in the Saturn library. You can get it dirt cheap in its pack-in form as it is commonly thown in as game or system bundles on eBay. You can also find the original full-case version for just a few dollars. This Saturn version isn’t quite as polished as its Dreamcast sibling, but if you are tight on money (or just a collector), you can’t go wrong with the original console version of Daytona USA.
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Sega Rally Cover Sega Rally Championship: $8
Sega Rally is the essential complement to Daytona USA if you are a racing fan. This drifting-filled racer truely is an essential and dirt-cheap classic. But just like Daytona USA, Sega Rally also has a graphically-enhanced sequel on the Dreamcast that is also pricier. But at $5 its hard to go wrong with the Saturn version.
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Virtua Fighter 2 Cover Virtua Fighter 2: $9
Just like Daytona USA, you can find the plain disk or sleaved (pack-in) version for next to nothing. But collectors will most likely be willing to pay just a few dollars for the full-case retail version. Virtua Fighter 2 actually serves as a great technical demo for the Saturn. The game maxed out the Saturn’s High Resolution 720×575 mode (highest for a console game at that time) while running at a smooth 60fps.
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Fighters Megamix Cover Fighters Megamix: $14
Fighters Megamix took the models from Virtua Fighter 2 and Fighting Vipers and threw in some of Virtua Fighter 3’s new moves. Megamix looked good, but lacked Virtua Fighter 2’s high-resolution feature. Of all of the non-pack-in games, Fighters Megamix is one of the best values today. You still won’t find as much depth as some modern fighters like Soul Calibur, but it’s a great game to give your Saturn some life.
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Virtual On Cover Virtual On: Cyber Troopers: $6
This excellent conversion of the one-on-one mech fighter is one of the most innovative bargain out of the bunch. Virtual On is essentially a true 3D fighter with super-quick mechs trying to blow each other up while dodging and hiding behind obstacles in the course. However, once again, the Dreamcast also has an enhanced sequel, but this Saturn original passes the savings on to you.
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Affordable Japanese Exclusives

X-Men vs Street Fighter Cover X-Men vs. Street Fighter: $20
This game is the reason I bought an Action Replay back in the day.  The Marvel vs Capcom game may get all the attention today, but I still love X-Men vs Street Fighter.  It isn’t quite as chaotic as the later installments but still has a strong character roster.  Also, the Saturn version is spot-on to the arcade version, unlike the crippled Playstation port.  At the $20 price point, you should also get a RAM cart, but you should be able to find it cheaper on its own.
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Assualt Suit Leynos 2 Cover Assault Suit Leynos 2: $20
One of my first impressions of this game was “Mechs meets Metal Slug“. It’s an impressive, but very tough 2D Mech shooter with some spectacular graphics and gameplay. It’s a wonderful exclusive for the Saturn and is definitely worth looking into if you are a shooter fan.
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Waku Waku 7 Cover Waku Waku 7: $13
As one of the best hidden gems in the Saturn fighting library, this quirky brawler from Sunsoft is a steal for just over $10.   Try finding the Neo-Geo cart for that cheap.
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Magical Drop 3 Cover Magical Drop III: $11
The Magical Drop series is an essential for puzzle fans.  It’s a shame the series never really got much exposure outside of Japan.  It happens to be one of the best values in the puzzle genre for the Saturn.
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King of Fighters 97 Cover King of Fighters ‘95, ‘96, or ‘97: About $15 each
SNK was a strong supporter of the Saturn in Japan and blessed gamers with handful of King of Fighters titles for the 32-bit machine before continuing their support on the Dreamcast.  Each game should come with a RAM cart for about $15 each.  Not a bad price at all for such solid fighters.  However, keep in mind, you could purchase The King of Fighters Collection: The Orochi Saga, which contains all three games for the same price
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Cyberbots Cover Cyberbots: Full Metal Madness: $12
This is one of Capcom’s lesser-known fighting gems and is a spiritual prequel to the Dreamcast game, Tech Romancer.  Cyberbots is good change of pace for fighting fans and duking it out with large robots gives off a unique feeling of satisfaction :)
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Samurai Spirits III Cover Samurai Spirits III or IV: $15 each
More SNK goodness.  While many fans of the series prefer the original two installments of the series, part III and IV are still solid fighters and are quite affordable on the Saturn.  However, you could purchase the Samurai Shodown Anthology on a newer platform for about the same price of one of these games.
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Strikers 1945 Cover Strikers 1945: $20
One of the other few solid 2D shooters that can be found for an affordable price on the Saturn.   Also, remember than the Saturn port is superior to the PS1 version (and vice versa for the sequel).
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Puyo Puyo Sun Cover Puyo Puyo Sun: $9
Yup, another puzzle game.  But its a great version of the classic Puyo Puyo series and it’s easy to find for under $10.  Might not sound like a great deal for those that aren’t hardcore puzzle fans, but it’s worth mentioning.
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Vampire Savior Cover Vampire Savior: $15
Also known as Darkstalkers 3, this fighter really takes advantage of the Saturn’s 2D capabilities and requires a RAM cart as well.   Just be aware of some of the incompatibilities with many of the Action Replay Plus cartridges.
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Cheap Import Alternatives

I thought it would be interesting to list of few of the especially popular Saturn games that are quite expensive as US releases and see what the Japanese version sell for.  If you have a way of playing imports, you might want to consider these if you want real copies of the games.

Panzer Dragoon Azel Cover Panzer Dragoon Azel: $24
Compared to $200+ for US copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga
Ok — so playing an RPG in Japanese can be quite a challenge, but look at the savings!  Of course, there’s English FAQs out there if you want to brave this one.
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Guardian Heroes Cover Guardian Heroes: $25
Compared to $90 for US copy of Guardian Heroes
There is some text in Guardian Heroes since it has RPG elements, but its rather playable in Japanese.  Plus, the savings is quite noticable.
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Shining Force III Cover Shining Force III: Scenario 1: $15
Compared to $100 for US copy of Shining Force III
Yeah, it’s another RPG, but $15 is dirt cheap for this game :)
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Saturn Bomberman Cover Saturn Bomberman: $12
Compared to $60 for US copy of Saturn Bomberman
Bomberman is Bomberman.  And any Bomberman fan must play Saturn Bomberman.  So if you want this game, can play imports, and want to save money on a real copy of this game, this is an easy choice.
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Burning Rangers Cover Burning Rangers: $23
Compare to $80 for US copy of Burning Rangers
Like Guardian Heroes, there is some text in the game, but it should be quite playable in Japanese.
Shop for Burning Rangers on eBay

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